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Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by int_19h on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:40PM (#29492059)
> it appears to only be happening in China - which I guess is fair game.

I'd say that depends on whether the subsidiary in China is financially independent from the mothership. If Apple in US profits from censorship in China or subsidizes it, it's not unreasonable for US to interfere with that.

Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by onlyrealcuzzo on Thursday December 09, 2021 @10:06AM (#29498117)
I mean - companies are expected to follow the rules of the country they operate in.

I guess with tech companies - "operate in" is a little unclear. Someone in China can visit your website (assuming it's not blocked by TGF) - and it might be very difficult for you to know (they could be using some Proxy or VPN).

In Apple's case - they literally have stores selling phones in China. AFAIK, that's how most people get their iPhones in China.

In the US - you have to pass all kind of FTC obstacles to sell a device. In China & other countries - it's the same way.

It seems like an overstep for the US to say - "We get to say what devices are available in every country." It also seems like an overstep for the US to say China can't have a Great Firewall and Censorship even if that's extremely "un-American". Us having free speech is extremely "un-CCP" - but for the time being - we've still got it [=

Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by int_19h on Sunday December 12, 2021 @07:03PM (#29535040)
It's not an overstep for the US to say "we get to say how American companies behave". This does not translate to "say what devices are available in every country", though - if Apple China can manufacture iPhone by itself, it's welcome to it. Ditto for the Great Firewall. But if the company profits in US from practices that we consider bad, I don't see what's the problem with cracking down on that company.

More abstractly, corporations are artificial legal entities that are created by governments in the first place. So why can't governments restrict what those artificial entities can and cannot do?