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Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by joakleaf on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:16PM (#29491848)
Well, for one thing because we outside China would automatically assume they are showing the same thing inside China as we see. Now we know that is not true. That is deceptive.

... And a a shareholder, I was also kept in the dark -- Which is actually also pretty problematic and deceptive.

Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by zepto on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @09:17PM (#29493056)
That just means you don’t know about China and the CCP. Anyone who did would never ‘automatically’ assume such a thing.

As for being a shareholder kept in the dark, that’s absurd. I am a shareholder too, and almost no operational details about apple are available to us, which is totally normal.

Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by stjohnswarts on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @08:40PM (#29492823)
I wouldn't assume that because anyone who knows anything about different politics in different countries would know that companies there have to cooperate and comply with local laws and all that implies.
Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by wolverine876 on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @09:05PM (#29492982)
They don't have to do anything. If local law said Apple had to share all its technology with the CCP, I bet they'd find a way not to do it. It's a matter of priority and choice.
Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by geodel on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @11:33PM (#29493863)
LOL. So as a shareholder you get to see Iphone 14 model months before launch?
Re:Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with Chin... by Sebb767 on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:05PM (#29492281)
> Well, for one thing because we outside China would automatically assume they are showing the same thing inside China as we see. Now we know that is not true. That is deceptive.

Would you expect a big pop "WARNING: THIS CONTENT IS SHOWN DIFFERENTLY IN MAINLAND CHINA DUE TO REGULATIONS!"? Also, this will mostly yield a well-duh response. The only "appropriate" option in scale would be to put it somewhere in the fine print (IMO), but this is so close to not mentioning it at all that they might as well not.

Also, I don't think there's a general expectation for website to be the same everywhere. If you open google.com from Germany, would you be suprised to see Google in German? Project Gutenberg also was unavailable in Germany for quite some time; I don't think they informed every non-German reader about it.

> ... And a[s] a shareholder, I was also kept in the dark -- Which is actually also pretty problematic and deceptive.

I'm pretty sure they don't inform shareholders over standard legal requests. They probably didn't ping you about FCC restricted radio frequencies either.

It's not that I generally agree with censoring, but I don't think Apple acted unreasonably here.