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Re:Do you ever avoid submitting something on HN so devs won'... by matheusmoreira on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @12:34PM (#29487741)
You're actually right. The goal is to automate all work to the point there is no need for an economy. In a post-scarcity society there is no need to economize.

However, it's a mistake to believe the rich and powerful will allow such a society to exist since they'd be powerless in it. They will impose artificial scarcity on it in order to maintain the existence of capitalism and their fortunes. Just look at how copyright is ruining free computing and the free internet.

Re:Do you ever avoid submitting something on HN so devs won'... by unclebucknasty on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @02:05PM (#29488913)
>it's a mistake to believe the rich and powerful will allow such a society to exist since they'd be powerless in it.

I'm having trouble imagining how such a transition would even look. I mean, do we still have some sort of recognition of property rights for existing property? If not, then how are the currently owned resources "freed"?

If so, then the wealthy would still be wealthy and there'd still be "classes". So, I'm not sure they'd mind so much, but for consideration of their offspring (which I don't discount).

In either case, how do we go about allocating future resources?

Re:Do you ever avoid submitting something on HN so devs won'... by Hekioi on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @12:40PM (#29487817)
Apparently the working class is doing there part as well to keep the status quo when I see the reaction of others to my statement.
Re:Do you ever avoid submitting something on HN so devs won'... by matheusmoreira on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @01:14PM (#29488276)
I don't think this is accidental. There seems to be a deliberate effort to de-politicize the economy and to de-economize politics. The left used to be all about labor rights. Now it's about gender politics.
Re:Do you ever avoid submitting something on HN so devs won'... by JacobThreeThree on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @01:10PM (#29488228)
Lol, it's the fault of the working class that they're oppressed? Strange world view.
Re:Do you ever avoid submitting something on HN so devs won'... by psychoslave on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @02:55PM (#29489608)
Fault is a rather morally strongly conoted term, but from a cybernetic analysis, the working class is contributing to the positive feedback loop of is own oppression.

That's not to say individuals that compose the class are all willingly and stupidily acting against their own collective best interest while being convince there's a better practical way they can afford to realize with only marginal chances to end up ostracized or severely punished for the sake of the example.

Re:Do you ever avoid submitting something on HN so devs won'... by literallyWTF on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @12:47PM (#29487909)
Lol. BRB lemme make my job and the job of others obsolete and hopefully society will also happen to reevaluate “work” just in time so I don’t starve to death.

Do you understand how dumb your logic is? Or are you going to continue to hand wave literally everything