Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and more

Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by polycaster on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:18AM (#29483442)

No, it's not stupid because it works pretty well. But preventing you from saving content is not the actual intention behind DRM. It's just the easiest way to hinder you from re-distribution.

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by endisneigh on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:20AM (#29483455)

Something working pretty well (which this doesn’t since it’s not respected in all telegram clients anyway) doesn’t mean it’s not stupid.

And again, this doesn’t prevent redistribution.

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by polycaster on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:44AM (#29483615)

Well, as I said, it hinders you from redistribution – it doesn't need to shut it down completely to fullfill its goal.

Also I assume it's working in a the way intended. It may be a stupid thing to do from your or my perspective because it doesn't work towards our benefit – but the rational behind it is sane. That's what I meant with „not stupid”.

I just realize I sound like this sickening utilitarian tone you find in HN discussions so often. Sorry for going that way. Basically I'm with you, it's stupid when you take a step back.

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by Cederfjard on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:17AM (#29483852)

The lock on your front door doesn’t prevent me from entering if I really want to, but it’s a deterrent and a clear signal of your intent, that I’m not to enter without your permission.

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by endisneigh on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:27AM (#29483914)

Not the analogous situation.

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by Cederfjard on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:38AM (#29484001)

You keep saying that, but I think that maybe you could make a better effort to understand other people’s analogies, even when they don’t map neatly to the mental model you have in mind.

My point is that a prevention mechanism can have utility for those employing it, even if it’s trivially circumvented by those who really want to. It does not have to be a binary thing, where either it works perfectly 100% of the time or it’s useless. It’s obvious to me that this feature could have a stifling effect on spread of content, and that might be well enough to have fulfilled its purpose.

Mind you, ideologically I do not necessarily agree with it, but that’s another matter.

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by polycaster on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @10:22AM (#29485807)

Actually it fits quite well.

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by iSnow on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:13AM (#29483832)

>because it works pretty well.

How do they enforce it on the web client?

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Re:Protected Content, Delete by Date, Device Management and ... by johnisgood on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:31AM (#29483947)

They cannot.

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