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Re:The U.S. Air Force Has Doubts About the F-35 by paganel on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @05:10AM (#29482986)
> Similarly, planes operating in the middle of Poland can attack targets in Kaliningrad - another crucial strategic ability for Polish defense.

If that happens, i.e. a NATO country directly attacking Russia, then a nuclear war starts. I'd put China in the same basket, also Pakistan if it gets attacked by India or vice-versa. Proxy-wars (to use your example Poland attacking Belarus) are of course more complicated.

Re:The U.S. Air Force Has Doubts About the F-35 by hagbard_c on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:37AM (#29483575)
I assume the Polish attack on Russian or Belarusian forces would come in reaction to a Russian or Belarusian attack, in which case NATO should already have come to the aid of Poland. Things can get muddled in the light of the alternative ways of "waging war" which Belarus seems to be engaged in - e.g. inviting thousands of migrants with promises of an easy passage into the EU, providing them with simple armaments [1] and positioning them on the Polish border with no way of retreat back in to Belarus - which has led to both NATO as well as Russian forces to converge on the scene [2], a situation in which the question of "who fired the first shot" is hard to answer.

[1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/16/belarus-ar...

[2] https://www.itv.com/news/2021-11-12/russia-sends-paratrooper...

Re:The U.S. Air Force Has Doubts About the F-35 by michaelt on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @08:20AM (#29484356)
In theory, sure.

But Ukraine is right on the border of Poland. And what we saw in Ukraine is by the time Paris, London and Berlin notice something is amiss, Russia has already achieved their goals. And the fear-of-triggering-WW3 goes both ways.

I can believe Poland would want to be well equipped, so they can hold out for a few days so their allies have time to mobilise.

Re:The U.S. Air Force Has Doubts About the F-35 by drran on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:30AM (#29483538)
NATO is a defense alliance. If RF will directly attack a NATO country, then a nuclear war will begin. When a NATO country attacks another country, NATO will not be involved.

EDIT: I'm wrong about Afghanistan.

Re:The U.S. Air Force Has Doubts About the F-35 by Mvandenbergh on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @06:50AM (#29483660)
>For example: USA war against Afghanistan.

The US successfully invoked NATO article 5 after 9/11 requiring all NATO members to assist militarily.

Re:The U.S. Air Force Has Doubts About the F-35 by jean_tta on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @07:31AM (#29483950)
This is either satire or the worst possible example, since the war in Afghanistan is the only time in history article 5 has been used.