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Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by emodendroket on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:24AM (#29474367)
I have no inside knowledge or anything but it seems like there are a lot of scenarios with degraded performance where people could argue about whether it really constitutes an outage.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by dilyevsky on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:39AM (#29474650)
One time gcp argued that since they did return 404s on gcs for a few hours that wasn’t an uptime/latency sla violation so we were not entitled to refund (tho they refunded us anyway)
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by Enginerrrd on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @12:09PM (#29475185)
Man, between costs and shenanigans like this, why don't more companies self-host?
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by dilyevsky on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @12:20PM (#29475347)
1. Leadership prefers to blame cloud when things break rather than take responsibility.

2. Cost is not an issue (until it is but you’re already locked in so oh well)

3. Faang has drained the talent pool of people who know how

Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by emodendroket on Wednesday December 08, 2021 @12:22AM (#29481525)
If you think that’s bad you should see the outages when you self host without a big enough team to really manage it.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by pm90 on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @02:25PM (#29477038)
Opex > Capex. If companies thought about long term, yes they might consider it. But unless the cloud providers fuck up really badly, they're ok to take the heat occasionally and tolerate a bit of nonsense.
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by dilyevsky on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @02:30PM (#29477109)
You can lease equipment you know…
Re:AWS us-east-1 outage by dekhn on Tuesday December 07, 2021 @11:30AM (#29474476)
Yep. I was an SRE who worked at Google and also launched a product on Google Cloud. We had these arguments all the time, and the contract language often provides a way for the provider to weasel out.