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Re:In 2019 40% of San Francisco traffic fatalities are from ... by cptskippy on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:25PM (#29467111)
I think you and the person above you are talking about the same thing.
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Re:In 2019 40% of San Francisco traffic fatalities are from ... by bobthepanda on Monday December 06, 2021 @10:58PM (#29468939)
They're different things.

the parent comment is describing a scenario in which

straight (including pedestrians have green) -> straight gets red -> left gets green.

in NYC's LPIs, this is

all directions have red -> pedestrians get green -> straight + left get green with pedestrians

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