Re:Even with Agile and Scrum waterfall will sneak in
by ivan_gammel on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:24AM
(#29458386)
This problem is not a problem of project management methodologies, but rather a problem of business strategy and scope management. If you want to fly to the moon with one shot, that is exactly it. Breaking down scope into smaller and better understood objectives is what will make things work and that should happen before a project starts. Afterwards it can be executed both as one big waterfall sprint for each objective or in some agile way with much higher chances for success and lower costs for cancellation.
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:Even with Agile and Scrum waterfall will sneak in
by littlecranky67 on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:33AM
(#29458451)
Perfect example of unclear formulated goal of the project. You say "fly to the moon with one shot" and think it is completely defined. But the whole, year-long project would change in scope whether you mean "Land on the moon unmanned", "Land a man on the moon", "Land a man on the moon AND return him safely to earth" or "Flyby the moon, get close to surface and take some pictures".
And if you now accept that any of those above goals may be changed into another during project runtime, you understood why waterfall is not often the best idea.
Re:Even with Agile and Scrum waterfall will sneak in
by ivan_gammel on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:37AM
(#29459537)
>Perfect example of unclear formulated goal of the project
That was exactly my point.
>And if you now accept that any of those above goals may be changed into another during project runtime, you understood why waterfall is not often the best idea.
I think you missed the entire idea of my comment. There is no sense in accepting that those goals will change and trying to start a project that aims to achieve one of them. They are too ambitious and broad in scope and need to be broken into smaller pieces (see Apollo program or SpaceX roadmap - both are focusing first on smaller objectives, that will clarify the next steps).