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Re:Is the big tech era ending? by pdimitar on Saturday December 04, 2021 @02:14PM (#29443473)
We're not blind to the tradeoffs. It's a long process to both change culture and nurture the necessary skills in your staff, AND take care of having human redundancy.

My point never was to idolize on-prem; I have agreed in other comments that from one point and on the cloud absolutely wins.

I'm mostly pointing out that there is a lot you can do before bowing your head to Amazon and accept $30_000+ monthly bill for infrastructure that I can fit in my 1 square meter food closet and which would likely cost me (or a few other experienced backenders) 2-3 weekends to setup.

Re:Is the big tech era ending? by ghaff on Saturday December 04, 2021 @02:19PM (#29443513)
Absolutely. I'm definitely not in the "You're crazy if you don't just use AWS/GCP/Azure" camp. I'm just also not in the "See how cheap it is to just stick a system under my desk" camp. Totally dependent on use case and circumstances.
Re:Is the big tech era ending? by pdimitar on Saturday December 04, 2021 @02:28PM (#29443582)
True. It's not a religion or a credo. We're simply evaluating our options because our cloud bill is way too high for what we do.

Time will tell but IMO it's super important to reserve the right to take a deeper look if you don't like your costs.

We're not as helpless as big tech wants us to believe.

Re:Is the big tech era ending? by ghaff on Saturday December 04, 2021 @02:36PM (#29443648)
And figuring out those costs can be really hard. People like Corey Quinn have built a whole business out of helping people make sense of their AWS bills.
Re:Is the big tech era ending? by pdimitar on Saturday December 04, 2021 @02:39PM (#29443671)
Yep, but it's all self-interest. At one point you ask yourself: must I really go down this rabbit hole?
Re:Is the big tech era ending? by sobkas on Sunday December 05, 2021 @01:45PM (#29451691)
>I can fit in my 1 square meter food closet and which would likely cost me (or a few other experienced backenders) 2-3 weekends to setup.

I don't think that setting it up is main problem here. Keeping it up to date and secure is the hard part.