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Re:Is the big tech era ending? by pdimitar on Saturday December 04, 2021 @08:51AM (#29440823)
I wish that too, believe me, but the interests of the corps is to pull us towards a cyberpunk future when they can stop your (artificial and cloud-connected) liver from working if you post something vaguely anti-establishment somewhere. They have been very trigger happy lately.
Re:Is the big tech era ending? by snek_case on Saturday December 04, 2021 @09:59AM (#29441207)
This is why we need to protect free speech.

IMO the far left challenging free speech is a bit of a trojan horse. Yes, you can use censorship to suppress distasteful ideas, but it's also obvious that if you give corporations the power to censor whatever they want, they will also use it to censor anything you say to criticize them. Look at what the Chinese government is doing, they can basically erase anything that makes China look bad from the internet in less than 30 minutes. Is that what we want here too?

Free speech is not a "far right" idea. It's the basis of democracy.

Re:Is the big tech era ending? by pdimitar on Saturday December 04, 2021 @03:17PM (#29443942)
Turning important society-wide (and hell, world-wide even) problems into yet another "us vs. them" diatribe seriously does not help anyone and it's just a distraction.

I don't care if I group up with "lefties" or "righties" to make important societal changes happen. If they are on board with the vision, let them believe in Santa if they need that to sleep better.

Re:Is the big tech era ending? by clairity on Saturday December 04, 2021 @11:23AM (#29441822)
it's a truism that free speech undergirds democracy, but you get to it via a false dichotomy (left vs right) handed down to us by surrogates of power (political scientists, in this case) to distract and divide the populace. the only useful (but not wholly accurate) dichotomy regarding political economies is the one between the powerful and the powerless. this is the timeless and unending conflict, not left-right, liberal-conservative, or any of that other bullshit. free speech is one tool of the powerless populace to keep the powerful in check.
Re:Is the big tech era ending? by 0KnowledgeGoof on Saturday December 04, 2021 @12:31PM (#29442456)
Absolutely agree. There are powerful politicians promising all sort of ideologies. There are weak politicians promising all sorts of ideologies.

In the end the powerful remain powerful, and the weak remain weak. IMO much of democracy is a smokescreen. With apologies to Marx, the opiate of the masses is democracy.

Re:Is the big tech era ending? by clairity on Monday December 06, 2021 @01:39PM (#29463763)
perhaps democracy gives the people an (outsized) illusion of control, but i'd disagree that democracy itself is the opiate. democracy is more open to a diversity of rhetoric, which can facilitate ideologically-driven diversions used by the powerful to corral the powerless.
Re:Is the big tech era ending? by sobkas on Sunday December 05, 2021 @05:39PM (#29454079)
> IMO the far left challenging free speech is a bit of a trojan horse. Yes, you can use censorship to suppress distasteful ideas,

Yeah, and rightwing is a bunch of saints that never deplatformed anyone?