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Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by nextos on Friday December 03, 2021 @02:49PM (#29434424)
I have been offered a job in a new SARS vaccine design team and, ironically, they want to put me in a tiny crowded office with no HVAC.

Of course, when I stated I'm less than happy about that, they claimed it's very safe. Yet all workers are traveling by bus and masks are not mandatory.

Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by varelse on Friday December 03, 2021 @02:52PM (#29434468)
So are you seeing the red flags here or not? This doesn't seem like a winning effort. This seems more like the opening scene to The Stand or the French lab that spawned the zombie apocalypse. Not that I think this virus is the end of the world but I do think it is the global marshmallow test. I can wait a really long time. I'm not a people person anyway.

Aside: genuine bona fide former bench scientist who used to work in a hot lab here. I stopped working in hot labs because the safety practices of my coworkers terrified me. Many of them are dead of cancer now, decades later. While there's no strong evidence for it, I cannot entirely dismiss the lab Leak theory here based on my prior experience working with fellow scientists and their cavalier attitudes towards safety. Had I stayed I think I would have lost my mind.

Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by mehrdada on Friday December 03, 2021 @03:13PM (#29434734)
Why is it ironic? The outcome from a proper vaccine would be eliminating masks and other measures. It seems 100% aligned with the company goals, but not the common perpetually-anxious-but-loves-to-look-rational dream.
Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by varelse on Friday December 03, 2021 @04:47PM (#29436035)
We're so confident we'll stop the zombie apocalypse that we require all our new employees to be bitten by zombies!
Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by mehrdada on Friday December 03, 2021 @05:40PM (#29436533)
I mean you could opt to stay super safe in a bunker and automatically die after 70 years or so, or go play along with the zombie wearing a helmet. There is a risk to living life to the fullest. Not everyone is you.
Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by nextos on Friday December 03, 2021 @05:50PM (#29436604)
I don't intend to stay locked down anywhere.

During the peak of the pandemic I was still going to my office at Oxford University. However, this other institution I'm potentially joining has much more relaxed safety measures.

I think having a low-density office is a must even if there is no pandemics. I want to be productive, and I don't want to be surrounded by tens of coughing people during the flu season. It's just commonsense.

Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by varelse on Friday December 03, 2021 @06:01PM (#29436720)
Um, one is pretty safe outdoors so far. I'm living a pretty good life modulo I miss watching movies on the big screen, mostly addressed by procuring a cheap 70" flatscreen. What's not so safe is congregating in poorly ventilated spaces. Why are you so hellbent on suggesting life is incomplete without doing so?
Re:Google delays mandatory return to office beyond Jan. 10 by mehrdada on Friday December 03, 2021 @06:25PM (#29436931)
I'm not hellbent on proving anything, but looking at the thread at large, it seems you are very much. Carry on.