Buried in Infrastructure Bill Is a Mandatory Backdoor Kill Switch for Your Car

Re:Buried in Infrastructure Bill Is a Mandatory Backdoor Kil... by mdp2021 on Friday December 03, 2021 @02:54AM (#29427673)

While I do concour in general, further discrimination is necessary: also teetotalers can get tired. (In fact, it is not clear how such system is that different from the already existing systems evaluating driving style: occasional jerks (being tired) and consistent imprecision (intoxicated) should both have been part of it.)

And about «ripping [modules] out»: are you sure that will be possible, also technically? It's not an independent bolt, but probably an integrated component.

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Re:Buried in Infrastructure Bill Is a Mandatory Backdoor Kil... by causi on Friday December 03, 2021 @03:45AM (#29427946)

While I do concour in general, further discrimination is necessary: also teetotalers can get tired.

I don't understand how this is relevant to the point of something being or not being a killswitch.

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Re:Buried in Infrastructure Bill Is a Mandatory Backdoor Kil... by bhelkey on Friday December 03, 2021 @04:09PM (#29435505)

> Will I, as a teetotaler, be ripping this out of my future car on sheer principle? Yes.

>> also teetotalers can get tired

>>> I don't understand how this is relevant to the point

You mentioned that you are a teetotaler. This appears relevant to your point in that it assumes that this proposed module, acting as intended, would never prevent you from driving.

mdp2021 points out that the first guideline targets impaired drivers (not drunk drivers) and would, by intention, prevent you from driving if you were tired enough to be impaired.

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Re:Buried in Infrastructure Bill Is a Mandatory Backdoor Kil... by mdp2021 on Friday December 03, 2021 @04:07AM (#29428074)

You wrote «Will I, as a teetotaler, be ripping this out of my future car on sheer principle», causi.

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Re:Buried in Infrastructure Bill Is a Mandatory Backdoor Kil... by causi on Friday December 03, 2021 @04:55AM (#29428324)

What is it that needs further discrimination?

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