Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t...
by gojomo on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:33PM
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The high rates of breakthroughs mean even very-highly-vaxxed populations have had case surges. Rt is going to oscillate around 1, forever.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t...
by rbanffy on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:53PM
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Even if it’s around 1 forever, if the effects are mild as they are with vaccinated people, it’ll be manageable as flu is.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t...
by jokethrowaway on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:17PM
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Since the weaker among us died with the first wave, it was already as manageable as the flu.
The mortality under 70 is pretty low.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t...
by rbanffy on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:19PM
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Would we be happy to let 1% of the survivors die? Would 2% be acceptable?
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t...
by angelzen on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:42PM
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As I already replied elsewhere in this thread, as of 12/02/2021 German CDC estimates 7-day R-value as 0.92. That is below 1.
https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus...
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t...
by crooked-v on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:49PM
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The 7-day R-value with current vaccination rates and local restrictions, yes.
Re:Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan t...
by angelzen on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:41PM
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True. Thank you for acknowledging the point and adding further qualifications. Public discourse is rather disheartening. The options are either 100% vaccination or 0% vaccination, either strict house confinement or nightly clubbing, either masking while hiking in the woods or no masks ever. Life is a rich tradeoff of a myriad factors, somehow we reduced it to a handful of black/white binaries.
The only way to reliably stop this from being an ongoing pandemic is measures that reduce the R-value below 1 in a long-term manner, like mass vaccinations.