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Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by riku_iki on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:10PM (#29419002)
What would be traffic in LA if you build so many new units?
Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by Maarten88 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:37PM (#29419453)
If you build more dense and closer to work and shops, people can travel smaller distances. Public transport, walking and biking will become viable alternatives, resulting in fewer car trips. You could have less traffic when planning it well.
Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by bluGill on Thursday December 02, 2021 @02:31PM (#29421235)
What if we don't? Instead we zone more and more suburbs farther and farther out.

We still need to build ways for all the new people in those new suburbs to get to the rest of the city. Building to dense neighborhoods is a lot cheaper than father out ones (because we need a lot more distance to get them) As a bonus transit works better as you become dense.

Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by riku_iki on Thursday December 02, 2021 @01:04PM (#29419879)
So, it is about rebuilding whole infrastructure from the ground: public transport, walking, biking, office spaces, not just building high condo complexes.
Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by volkl48 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @01:59PM (#29420775)
I'll point out that:

- LA is already building various large expansions of public transit, as well as walking/biking infrastructure.

- Generally the shops basically come along with the housing. "Activating" the ground floor - putting retail or other public uses into the ground floor of buildings that are residential above is standard practice when building those taller residential buildings along main arteries, on busy corners, and so on.

Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by riku_iki on Thursday December 02, 2021 @02:06PM (#29420883)
> LA is already building various large expansions of public transit

which suffers from many difficulties and cost overruns because of existing layout.

I think it would be more cost efficient to build another city/town nearby from the ground, and people decide where they want to live given differences in cost and lifestyle.

Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by bluGill on Thursday December 02, 2021 @02:34PM (#29421280)
On paper. However in the real world cities are only built next to other cities. You could build a "perfect" city like LA in ability to support population and jobs in Oklahoma for pretty cheap - but nobody will come.

That is ignoring the fact that in our perfect city above, just a few years later we will discover something new we forgot to account for and now our city is imperfect.

Re:Facing housing crisis, L.A. voters back duplexes in singl... by riku_iki on Thursday December 02, 2021 @11:02PM (#29426483)
Yes, I proposed to build it nearby.