Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by MattGaiser on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:23AM
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So wait, you basically start on a 8 week contract? Is that how that works?
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Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by romanhn on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:46AM
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Not a contract, in most cases, you're hired into the company rather than a specific team. To be clear it's not just two weeks to find a team, you spend the entire length of bootcamp (6-10 weeks) evaluating teams (you evaluating them, not the other way) to pick one. I preferred that much more to Google's approach, where passing the interview loop leads to the tedious team selection process - before an offer is extended.
And to answer a question from a neighboring comment, it's exceedingly rare for a match to not happen. There are way more teams with open headcount than candidates looking, so teams and managers go out of their way to woo the incoming folks. I don't know exactly what happens if one spends two months fruitlessly, presumably somebody from the bootcamp program would have a long conversation with them about their general fit at the company.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by objclxt on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:54AM
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> you evaluating them, not the other way
Ehhhh...you say that, but it definitely goes both ways. It's not meant to, but hiring managers at Meta absolutely do evaluate the bootcampers who reach out to join, especially for more popular teams.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by romanhn on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @12:12PM
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Sure, I believe it happens in pockets, though it's very clearly spelled out company policy that this process is not a second interview. But people are people and supply/demand rules apply here as well. It also more often took took the form of who a hiring manager might reach out to vs not. As a hiring manager, I and my peers engaged in good faith AFAIK with bootcampers that reached out directly. Given the many openings in our growing teams, doing otherwise would've been foolhardy.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by MattGaiser on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:58AM
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Ah, this is much more reasonable. I interpreted it as another whittling of people where they would hire a pile House MD style and see which ones are actually desired.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by somerando7 on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:33AM
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No, you start with a fulltime offer, it's just called "bootcamp". It's our way of doing all the HR stuff (paperwork, medical, legal, etc) + you taking some courses on areas you're interested in specific to fb + you exploring teams and finding one that you will work at.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by MattGaiser on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:42AM
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And if you don't get a match in those two weeks?
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by fatnoah on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @12:00PM
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It's not a strict two weeks, and the process is much more about being pursued than finding a team. For example, a typical bootcamper in NYC will hear from 40+ teams.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by romanhn on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @05:05PM
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Is that still the case? I left earlier this year, but they had instituted a max on the number of reachouts a team/manager can make to minimize the "spray and pray" tactics and bootcamper overload.