Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by Someone1234 on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @10:38AM
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I like the concept, but the amount of uncompensated time candidates have to give to the company is excessive and a lot of non-Google companies couldn't get away with it.
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Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by sam0x17 on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:12AM
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Yes, I had the smug joy of getting to tell my Google recruiter to f off back in 2014 because of a number of red flags in their interviewing process, very early in my career. I don't regret it at all, and actually my decision to simply take a short-term research internship at a DoE lab instead (and surprisingly) opened a number of doors in the startup world for me that I wouldn't have even known exist otherwise.
In my case one major red flag was "having to fly somewhere before I have an official offer", and I can only imagine the new zoomer crowd leans much more in that direction. FANG doesn't respect your time or effort at all, they think you should be honored just to be in their presence. That shit doesn't fly anymore.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by mgkimsal on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:34AM
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Had somewhat similar experience... 2014/2015 maybe. Unsolicited call out to me, asking me to interview. I had a couple of questions - one of which included salary range. I was being expected to go take days off and fly to them, but they wouldn't give me even a basic range. Nothing. I declined to go further.
I told someone who then said "well... that's not the way you get a job!" And I said "but... I didn't want a job. They called me. They wanted a worker, but wouldn't do me the courtesy of basic information before I was to drop whatever I was doing and come running to them on their timetable".
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by pb7 on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:39AM
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On-site interviews are done by most companies. They require you to fly if you don't live in the area. This isn't a red flag for most people.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by sam0x17 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @12:08AM
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It's unheard of in the startup world. I don't even know anyone outside of the startup world anymore so I can't speak to whatever FANG and the remaining crumbling enterprise companies are still doing at this late hour.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by VRay on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @11:37AM
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Getting a free all-expenses-paid weekend in Mountain View is a perk to a lot of people
If I weren't busy with the familoids at home I'd love a free plane trip and fancy hotel stay. Er, in non-pandemic times at least
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by hn_user82179 on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @12:14PM
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It can be nice but at the end of the day can be a massive inconvenience to people with dependents. Single parents, unless they have a good support network, might find it especially difficult.
Re:Stripe hiring issues make some lose job offers
by KerryJones on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @12:11PM
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I think the point is that many people _are_ busy with familoids. I took them up on this offer early in my career when I had less "adult" responsibilities, but as those tend to increase it makes this increasingly hard to deal with.