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Re:Searchable flight logs from Jeffrey Epstein’s plane by loonster on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @10:20PM (#29400281)
That case would be the equivalent if Grosskreutz killed Rittenhouse and tried to claim self defense.

An alternative equivalent would be if Arbery was successful at taking away the firearm and killing his attackers.

Re:Searchable flight logs from Jeffrey Epstein’s plane by didgeoridoo on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @03:14PM (#29408591)
What? Not at all. Arbery attempted to gain control of the gun and was killed, and the defense attempted to claim self-defense. I was responding to the claim that self-defense is some kind of automatic not-guilty verdict. It evidently is not.
Re:Searchable flight logs from Jeffrey Epstein’s plane by loonster on Thursday December 02, 2021 @11:17AM (#29418079)
Arbery, like Rittenhouse, was not the aggressor. Rittenhouse had a firearm to defend himself, Arbery did not. If Arbery was successful in taking the firearm from his assailants, self-defense would be a very viable claim.