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Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by chongli on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @07:21PM (#29399155)
No, they won't ever become an approved vendor. The people profiting from this have close ties to those who approve vendors. Approving the charities would erode those profits.

The whole US prison system is corrupt to the core. It's one of the (if not the) ugliest stains on the entire country. It's a continuation of slavery by other means.

Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by maerF0x0 on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @08:07PM (#29399471)
> It's a continuation of slavery by other means.

This is the part that shocks me. With nearly universal agreement that slavery is bad, how does the approximate equivalent continue?

Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by chongli on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @08:35PM (#29399652)
The US has a culture of retribution [1] against convicts. This has led to the election of many politicians, prosecutors, and the like who campaign on a "tough on crime" platform [2]. In spite of what the wikipedia article on retributive justice says, I believe schadenfreude is a component of this. People see stories in the news about violent crimes and they often gather outside courtrooms to cheer when harsh sentences are handed down, including the death penalty.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retributive_justice

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by 72736379 on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @08:30PM (#29399620)
The way the 13th amendment is written is how: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction". This is why penal labor is explicitly allowed, and why this population is milked for money (re: charging by the minute to read a free book available under public domain).
Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by kingcharles on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @12:03AM (#29400879)
Yes. There are now more black people legally owned as slaves than there were in the 1800s. It's just that the government owns them all now. The USA didn't abolish slavery it just made it illegal for private corporations to own them. Of course, the private corporations now rent them from the government.
Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by maerF0x0 on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @02:22PM (#29407980)
Is it possible/optional that companies could employee these inmates in a non-abusive way? eg; could a company opt to pay them minimum wage or educational benefits?
Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by shagie on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @09:27PM (#29411801)
Yes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/business/economy/labor-ma...

> Nearly every weekday morning for much of last year, Mr. Forseth would board a van at the minimum-security prison outside Madison, Wis., and ride to Stoughton Trailers, where he and more than a dozen other inmates earned $14 an hour wiring taillights and building sidewalls for the company’s line of semitrailers.

> After he was released, Mr. Forseth kept right on working at Stoughton. But instead of riding in the prison van, he drives to work in the 2015 Ford Fusion he bought with the money he saved while incarcerated.

> Work-release programs have often been criticized for exploiting inmates by forcing them to work grueling jobs for pay that is often well below minimum wage. But the Wisconsin program is voluntary, and inmates are paid market wages. State officials say the program gives inmates a chance to build up some savings, learn vocational skills and prepare for life after prison.

Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by maerF0x0 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:34PM (#29425103)
I would donate to a charity, if such one existed, that just helped give at least minimum wage (ideally a living wage) for a social good cause.

Any leads on such a thing?

I've long thought about the concept of guaranteed employment, like basically if people charitably said "look, if you cant find a job, I'll give you one doing a social good, like sweeping this street or chopping onions at a local foodbank" ...

Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by shagie on Thursday December 02, 2021 @08:27PM (#29425518)
The classic ones that I'm familiar with are bakeries.

For example - https://justdane.org/just-bakery/

A recent article from NPR https://www.npr.org/2021/11/23/1056856357/former-inmates-are...

Another bakery from a bit ago - https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/04/15/469942932/th...

One that is more on the farming skills - https://www.npr.org/2021/09/17/1037594879/this-prison-teache... and another one - https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2017/08/... and then for youth https://doc.wi.gov/Pages/AboutDOC/JuvenileCorrections/GrowAc... -- though these are more about teaching while incarcerated rather than jobs once they're out.

Even aside from the "do they accept charity or donation" the thing to do is to look at having your place of employment to say... get bagels from Just Bakery or have get pizza from Down North Pizza to continue to support the community and the people working at such jobs.

I'd also check with the state DWD (or equivalent) - Department of Workforce Development. They're often part of the set of departments that work to reduce recidivism and may have suggestions for either "these companies employ ex-convicts" so that you can help by patronizing them along with "these organizations help with reentry" - and that would be an opportunity for donations.

For that example - https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/press/2019/190403_new_hope_frostma... and https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/press/210729-reecc-job-center.htm

Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by _moof on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @10:28AM (#29404614)
They're not slaves, they're prisoners with jobs. /s

Basically when it became no longer tenable to deny the fundamental humanity of an enslaved person, we found a way to deprive them of their humanity by criminalizing them. So now we don't have to feel bad for abusing them because they deserve it. It's not slavery, see, it's justice.

Or so the argument goes. It's disgusting.

Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by Avshalom on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @08:14PM (#29399519)
Well the reality is that we have nearly universal agreement to say that slavery is bad. That's not the same thing.
Re:The American prison system’s war on reading by kingcharles on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @12:02AM (#29400874)
The jail I was at used Google Street View to determine if the vendor had a shop open to the public at the address they mailed the books from. If they did they would assume all their used books were tainted and would refuse them.