Re:Arctic Ocean started getting warmer decades earlier than ...
by tdrdt on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @10:58AM
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Do you agree?
Absolutely!
I think we are very 'unlucky' (stupid) that we are accelerating a natural climate change that causes global warming.
Re:Arctic Ocean started getting warmer decades earlier than ...
by peteradio on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @11:35AM
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I think it's interesting to consider the scenario that humans are not causing the climate to change, but it is changing catastrophically nonetheless. How is our strategy different? Is it at all?
Re:Arctic Ocean started getting warmer decades earlier than ...
by tdrdt on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @11:51AM
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Well lets say natural global warming will cause a rise of 5°C in the next 50 years. Then we have 50 years to adapt. But when we accelerate this change we might need to adapt in 5 years. And we might even cause a rise of 6°C instead of 5. I believe those are the big problems we are facing.
Re:Arctic Ocean started getting warmer decades earlier than ...
by Zababa on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @11:44AM
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I think in that case we would focus on ways to cope with climate change. For example, air conditionning everywhere would make sense. What's difficult about the current crisis is that you can't use too much energy to fight it without making it worse.
Re:Arctic Ocean started getting warmer decades earlier than ...
by blackbrokkoli on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @02:47PM
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Please elaborate how air conditioning is going to prevent a destabilization of democracy around the world as millions of climate refugees run out of places to flee too?
From what I understand, the scientific consensus [1] is not that climate change is completely caused by human activity, for the very reason you mention: it’s complicated. :)
But like you also mention, the consensus is that we are we are at least partially causing it, even if it’s not “completely.” If we’re not causing 100% of the change, but perhaps 50%, I’m not sure if that’s much of a distinction in terms of what policy to change. Do you agree?
[1] https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus - “Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities.” It does not say or imply 100% due to those human activities. The ACS says, “The Earth’s climate is changing in response to increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases (GHGs) and particulate matter in the atmosphere, largely as the result of human activities.” Even there, it’s not saying completely, although it’s saying largely, which definitely has a distinction.