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Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by telotortium on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:53PM (#29389099)
Malcom Kyeyune, at least, is a one-time socialist. Now he seems to be more of a (right) populist, albeit still heavily influenced by Marxism. According to this blog post[0], he believes that the populist right is the actual party of the working class, since leftist parties have invariably begun to advocate for the interests of the professional-managerial class, who are their primary clients these days.

[0] https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2020/05/07/on-strasserism-and...

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Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by pydry on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @06:49AM (#29391153)
>he believes that the populist right is the actual party of the working class

A pretty neat way of ingratiating himself with right wing elites and a promising route to political power.

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Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by FooBarBizBazz on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @06:14PM (#29398646)
And, if you are on the left, shouldn't you kind-of want the "bad guys" to start borrowing your ideas? That should make things less-bad when they win, right? As far as I can tell, the problem, apart from Trump winning, was that he didn't do enough of this Bannonesque stuff, and instead remained too-much a (typical, apart from the incompetence) Big Business Republican.
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Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by pydry on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @03:26AM (#29401890)
??

This is the two wings of the business party arguing over which one of them better represents actual people.

Yeah, Trump attempted some left wing populist rhetoric just before he won but it was just rhetoric.

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Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by FooBarBizBazz on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @09:41AM (#29404009)
I was expressing the hope that the populist right could be steered away from its worst impulses, and that, if that could be done, it might be a better partner for getting certain kinds of policy enacted than Reagan Republicans would be.

But instead, that wing has been taken over by white ethnic stuff and culture war (like right populist parties in other countries), which makes that sort of alliance very difficult.

Big business would seem to be the beneficiary of this situation.

Though obviously yes, in the voting booth, "Republicans bad" is a sufficient level of nuance.

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Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by pydry on Thursday December 02, 2021 @04:13AM (#29414037)
Really not sure how that would be possible. The Republican party is fairly evenly split between corporate/Reaganesque Republicans and the populist right. There are no other power blocs that could enact the kind of steering you're hoping for. Even electoral defeat doesnt seem to phase them much (they're all voting against popular progressive bills in lockstep).

The best we could probably hope for is that those two wings of the party turn on each other but as Trump demonstrated they seem to be able to find enough common ground to work together.

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