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Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by eru on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:50PM (#29388341)
Yes, student loan forgiveness would bloat the education sector even more.

You could shrink the education sector by removing subsidies and tax discounts for it. (Of course, that's politically hard to do.)

> The thing is, you have huge sectors; education, public transit, health care etc, that would be reasonable to improve but where privatization based capital investment have resulted in huge, costly and, well, shitty systems.

I'm not so sure. Eg talk to any 'right-thinking' Brit and they will tell you how horrible British Rail privatisation was. Then compare the graphs in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_the_privatisation_...

See also https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/SurfaceFreightTransporta... and https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/AirlineDeregulation.html

Or look into the recent-ish success of German legalising long distance bus travel.

Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by mistrial9 on Monday November 29, 2021 @10:46PM (#29388721)
> student loan forgiveness would bloat the education sector even more

this is remarkably one-sided

Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by eru on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:04PM (#29388816)
How so?

If you replace the slightly loaded term 'bloat', you would get something fairly unobjectionable:

'Forgiving loans people take out for an activity, would lead to more of that activity.'

Or what do you mean?

Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by Nevermark on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @03:20AM (#29390060)
I agree with your sentiment. I would fine tune the wording too:

'Forgiving loans people take out for an activity, would lead to more demand and greater price appreciation of that activity.'

I think the great harm was disconnecting students from the immediate consequences of their educational spending with easy to get loans.

That economic disconnect has made it ever easier for schools to charge more for less actual value. Whether in poorly directed education (exceptional education in areas with poor career potential), or simply over priced (top heavy admins, and other overhead or expenses beyond providing actual education).

Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by eru on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @09:48AM (#29392683)
What do you mean by 'appreciation'?
Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by Nevermark on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @12:56PM (#29395182)
Price increases. Easy student loans remove a lot of pressure from qualified education providers for keeping their prices/expenses down.
Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by eru on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @06:54AM (#29402873)
Thanks. I wasn't quite sure whether increase in price was meant, or some kind of moral appreciation.
Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by acoard on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @01:33PM (#29395667)
Appreciation means it would increase (i.e. appreciate). Price appreciation = it will cost more. Essentially saying if you give people a bunch of money for X, the going rate of X will increase as that's how supply and demand work.
Re:Crises of Elite Competition in the East and West by eru on Wednesday December 01, 2021 @06:53AM (#29402872)
Ok. I wasn't quite sure whether increase in price was meant, or some kind of moral appreciation.