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Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by technoslut on Monday August 29, 2011 @04:07PM (#2938677)
I would imagine that Apple's envisions a world of these things being done wirelessly.

What is interesting is that Apple and MS have two totally opposed philosophies in handling the issue of the user not understanding the file system.

Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by sid0 on Monday August 29, 2011 @04:12PM (#2938694)
Well, yes, Apple designs products for rich people in the first world who have always-on fast internet (have you seen the sheer size of Apple point updates?!). Microsoft designs far more inclusive products.
Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by revscat on Monday August 29, 2011 @05:06PM (#2938994)
Lion 10.7.1 was a whopping 79.3MB. That's nothing, especially for an OS point release.

And judging by the popular success of the iPad I have to disagree with the suggestion that Apple is less inclusive.

Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by sid0 on Monday August 29, 2011 @05:08PM (#2938998)
Lion 10.7.1 was a whopping 79.3MB.

Well, they might have fixed it then. All I know is that I balked at the 1GB OS X update waiting for me.

And judging by the popular success of the iPad I have to disagree with the suggestion that Apple is less inclusive.

The iPad is only popular in rich first world countries. You will find tons of PCs running Windows in not-so-rich countries, orders of magnitude more. That is exactly my point.

Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by sirn on Monday August 29, 2011 @06:03PM (#2939248)
> The iPad is only popular in rich first world countries.

At very least in Bangkok, which is obviously not belongs to rich first world countries, I can see iPad (and Galaxy Tab) everywhere on a train or even in a not-so-expensive restaurant. My not-so-rich neighbor bought an iPad few weeks ago and ask if I could help him setup Wi-Fi, etc.

Maybe I have an Apple-fan Attraction Field turned on or something, but I've found iPad-availablity around me to be pretty amazing. It's hard to deny that Windows-running PCs are still orders of magnitude more but it's still amazing.

Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by maguay on Monday August 29, 2011 @10:00PM (#2939811)
Apple is on an incredible roll in Thailand. Our tiny town of Tak just got its first superstore ... and an Apple (iBeat) store at the same time. Dumbfounding.
Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by revscat on Monday August 29, 2011 @05:18PM (#2939061)
The iPad is only popular in rich first world countries. You will find tons of PCs running Windows in not-so-rich countries, orders of magnitude more. That is exactly my point.

New technologies tend to be adapted by first world countries first. This was as true of the original IBM PC as it is today for the iPad.

Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by sid0 on Monday August 29, 2011 @05:20PM (#2939073)
But the iOS model of syncing everything to the cloud or whatever is simply incompatible with the current realities of those countries. Microsoft's taking that into account rather than just shrugging it off.
Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by archangel_one on Monday August 29, 2011 @06:16PM (#2939298)
Windows 7 SP1 is not exactly svelte - it's around 1GB or so as well.
Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by sid0 on Tuesday August 30, 2011 @04:55AM (#2940632)
The size of Windows 7 SP1 is based on how many updates you already have. It's generally 60-100 MB. Only the absolute full ISO download is a gigabyte, and most people simply won't need that. Not to mention that non-SP1 Win7 kept getting security updates for quite a while.
Re:Microsoft UI has officially entered the realm of self-parody by mitjak on Tuesday August 30, 2011 @01:45AM (#2940276)
To add to the other voices here, it's massively popular in Eastern Europe not so much as a computer replacement but as a symbol of wealth, regardless of whether you actually possess any.