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Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by terinjokes on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:44PM (#29386275)
I have a 2016 model Vizio that came with a very simple remote without a menu button, expecting you to use a mobile app for all settings. They made a more complete remote available 18 months later as a separate purchase. If you didn't buy the remote you could get softlocked not being able to navigate away from the Smartcast channel.

While the remote does have a menu button, many settings continue to be available only via the mobile app.

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