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Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by neltnerb on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:40PM (#29385629)
I imagine they'll happily let your neighbor accept the terms and conditions you have yet to accept too =P That's a failure mode I hadn't thought about, I didn't realize people tried to control a TV with bluetooth.

Why would you do this? Initial configuration but then never again? I can't think of a technical reason it meaningfully helps when you can already type in a wifi password with the remote, so I'm inclined to assume that the feature isn't for the customer but rather because they want you to use their app on your phone because the data on your phone is more valuable than the data on your TV.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by laumars on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:57PM (#29385785)
I used to quite like BT control of the TV back when my kids were babies. Advance warning though, these are going to be pretty niche use cases…

I would feed them and they’d fall asleep in my arms but sometimes I would be terrified to move them in case they woke (and sometimes I’d just enjoy cuddling them as they slept). However the TV remote might have been too far to reach, whereas my phone was always in my pocket.

BT became useful again when they became older and started playing with the TV remote. It was always getting lost. Whereas my phone wasn’t.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by neltnerb on Monday November 29, 2021 @05:44PM (#29386280)
So that does make sense, for sure, though my thinking was about how once it's connected to your home WiFi surely your phone is too and is less range limited.

But in terms of involving installing an app on your phone to emulate a remote, both are the same so it's no different. At least it's for more than just to configure it, mandating a connection to a phone you may or may not have seems like a stretch. At least by making it possible to use your BT for a remote you're expanding the features rather than breaking them.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by kingcharles on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:30PM (#29387686)
I was given a nice TV with no remote. Used Bluetooth remote app to control TV.