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Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by hellojesus on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:08PM (#29385306)
Yes. Toyota seems to like putting the transceiver behind the glove box, forcing you to introduce a bundle of rattles to your newly purchased vehicle to remove. Also, I'm pretty sure removing it disables some of the front speakers, requiring manual wire connecting to get them back. You could maybe leave the device in there but encase it in a Faraday cage, but still rattles are introduced.

Ford, iirc, places it on the floor under or behind some seats making it much easier to deal with.

I think MA just passed a law about not allowing vehicles sold there to sell your telemetry data or something.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions? by vineyardmike on Monday November 29, 2021 @04:57PM (#29385782)
> I think MA just passed a law about not allowing vehicles sold there to sell your telemetry data or something.

i believe they just have to share the data with others, which they don't want to do.