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Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by jacquesm on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:30AM (#29379047)
Quoting libertarian think tanks in order to further libertarian bollocks viewpoints isn't going to move the needle.
Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by toolz on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:54AM (#29379246)
It really is disheartening to see such willful political bias. The article in question spends much of its time talking about the "ACT UP" movement, which was a movement headed by LGBQT political activists marching against the FDA, yet here you are brushing it off as if this is some partisan issue because it's an article written by someone with different political bias than yourself.
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Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by toolz on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:48AM (#29379810)
I don't think anyone was trying to do anything other than "score points off the FDA" - which is to say, you apparently agree the article is a good source for showing the FDA has had obvious failures in the past.

> ...you should have a look to see who you're arguing with.

Am I supposed to recognize you somehow? Either way, I don't really know how to react to this - is your blog or the companies you're affiliated with supposed to make you immune to political bias somehow? You'll have to forgive me as my initial impression was that you're trying to flex on the internet, but I feel like that's a very uncharitable interpretation on my part so I'll default to assuming that's the wrong interpretation.

Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by garmaine on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:50AM (#29379829)
Whatever you may think of yourself, you have demonstrated severe political bias in this thread by outright dismissing articles without reading them based on the perceived politics of the hosting organization.

FWIW I didn’t know or care the source of the article I shared. I just literally picked the first result in google that covered the history of ACT UP and the FDA, after skimming to make sure it seemed accurate.

Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by jacquesm on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:55AM (#29379880)
> I just literally picked the first result in google that covered the history of ACT UP and the FDA, after skimming to make sure it seemed accurate.

Ah, the good old 'argument by google search'. Yes, what could possibly go wrong with that. You are now arguing in bad faith, I hope you appreciate at least that much.

Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by garmaine on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:13AM (#29380068)
How am I arguing in bad faith?

I’m deeply familiar with the actions of the FDA during the AIDS crisis, having studied it in college, read books, watched documentaries, etc. But I can’t convey that info through a HN comment, so I sought out an internet article which I first skimmed to make sure it got the facts straight before linking to. Did I violate some convention of discourse on HN in doing so?

Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by toolz on Monday November 29, 2021 @10:15AM (#29380775)
You're not arguing in bad faith. You're being gaslit by someone who has already devolved to name calling in this thread.
Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by jacquesm on Monday November 29, 2021 @11:27AM (#29381707)
Cherry picking cases to prove that an entire institution should somehow be disbanded in spite of a mountain of evidence to the contrary is arguing in bad faith. That you disagree because you and the other commenter here agree on the basic premise that you both believe FDA is bad and should be disbanded doesn't change that.
Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by garmaine on Monday November 29, 2021 @07:33AM (#29379080)
Then google “fda aids drugs” and pick your favorite source. This is, at this point 30 years removed, a non-political historical issue with objective facts.
Re:The WHO is seeking a new treaty on handling future pandemics by jacquesm on Monday November 29, 2021 @08:16AM (#29379487)
No, there is simply many years of progressive insight. The FDA, like any institution isn't perfect, they got stuff wrong in the past, they'll get stuff wrong in the future. But overall they are a very large net positive, and to argue the opposite is usually accompanied by a mindset that would love a world without all those pesky rules and regulations.