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Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by rodgerd on Sunday November 28, 2021 @08:26PM (#29375242)
> Lots of other fields have on calls or out of work expectations.

Yes, and in many of them there are call-out fees and overtime. Programmers and sysadmins have convinced themselves that, as "professionals" they are not aligned with traditional working-class constructs like this.

Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by staticassertion on Sunday November 28, 2021 @09:11PM (#29375536)
> Yes, and in many of them there are call-out fees and overtime.

Why is that any better than just getting paid overall more? Lots of companies also have internal policies like "if you get called in on a weekend take a long weekend next week" etc in my experience.

Re:I Don't Want to Be on Call Anymore by rodgerd on Monday November 29, 2021 @03:27PM (#29384811)
Because then the company has a financial incentive to reduce call-outs and overtime.