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Re:Proof of stake is incapable of producing a consensus by DonHopkins on Sunday November 28, 2021 @08:32AM (#29368763)
A positive side effect of hitting your hand with a hammer is a surplus of morphine your doctor prescribes to make you stop feeling it, and a surplus of lithium your psychiatrist prescribes to make you stop doing it.

And no, renewable energy isn't generally the cheapest, coal is. (Until you factor in the health care and funeral service costs.)

Bitcoin is just China's way of exporting coal through the atmosphere.

Re:Proof of stake is incapable of producing a consensus by dan-robertson on Sunday November 28, 2021 @08:41AM (#29368820)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_sourc...

It may be the case that coal is cheaper if you ignore the capital cost of the plant (e.g. running an old plant beyond its design life) but including capital costs amortised over the lifetime of the plant coal is not even cheaper than natural gas.

My understanding is that a major source of electricity used for bitcoin mining in China was hydro power during the wet season (when there is a natural power surplus because the level in the dam must be reduced)

Re:Proof of stake is incapable of producing a consensus by Applejinx on Sunday November 28, 2021 @11:27AM (#29370173)
Illegal coal is. Because if your plant has been shut down for being too dirty, you have no other option but to continue to operate illegally or just straight up die, and bitcoin is by FAR the best option for consuming that illegal-dirty-plant energy.

The reason it's the cheapest is that you're negotiating with somebody who is desperate and has no options left. They have to sell the energy to you for bitcoin production because there's literally nowhere else they can turn.

The more green energy proliferates and climate change action expands, the more of these plants will be reduced to this desperation. The worst energy production is the cheapest, so long as it's been outlawed and the plant has no other options.