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Re:Saintcon: Lock Picking Lawyer Keynote by xondono on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:11AM (#29367720)
> I had a locksmith out a couple of years ago, and was very disappointed when he simply got out a drill rather than starting with 'click out of one'.

That’s a common occurrence because of the incentives. The locksmith wants to spend as little time as possible (average time), and doesn’t pay a premium for destroying the lock, since most people don’t confront them on that.

LPL is amazing, but any decent locksmith could get at least near enough him in competence. It’s not that it’s so hard that very little people can do it, it’s that is very niche for most people to learn.

Re:Saintcon: Lock Picking Lawyer Keynote by celticninja on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:45AM (#29367870)
I bet most locksmiths are the drill and replace type and could not pick a lock reliably anyway. Locksmiths are taught how to dismantle and remove a lock these days rather than how a lock works and therefore how to beat it.
Re:Saintcon: Lock Picking Lawyer Keynote by xondono on Sunday November 28, 2021 @09:15AM (#29369042)
After thinking about this, I realized it makes a lot of sense given what LPL is saying.

After all, if you spent a fortune in some lock and the locksmith can open it in 5 seconds flat, you’ll feel ripped off. It’s possible that a lot locksmiths believe the locks to be safe, and they think they’re saving time by going the drill route.

Not to mention that if the locksmith is selling you the lock, he will want to avoid damaging their reputation.

Re:Saintcon: Lock Picking Lawyer Keynote by TravelPiglet on Sunday November 28, 2021 @06:45AM (#29368126)
Damaging the lock in the process of picking it is also an outcome that isn’t shown in the videos. LPL damages locks as well.