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Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by jacquesm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @09:41AM (#29341710)
It is, and unethical SEO hacking as well. Listing your competitors brands in your articles is a pretty obvious unethical hack.

I've flagged this.

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by thechilliguy on Thursday November 25, 2021 @09:48AM (#29341777)
Can you please be more specific about what competitors brands have I listed in the article?

Plus I don't understand what's unethical about writing a strategy around a case study.

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by aaronchall on Friday November 26, 2021 @10:48AM (#29351215)
I'd ignore that particular individual's comment. A full case study should include a qualitative discussion of the competition, and the more granular, the better.

Far from unethical, it's a best practice.

Source: I wrote a lot of papers like this for business school.

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by tentacleuno on Thursday November 25, 2021 @09:53AM (#29341823)
Sidenote, but I am sure Google and Co. have already optimised their systems to make competitor-naming schemes worthless re: SEO. Of course, this assumes the blog post is SEO hacking in the first place.

Back on topic, there is also a section of the Hacker News guidelines which I feel is appropriate here:

> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by miakiraki on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:01AM (#29341903)
Competitor naming schemes? SEO hacking?

This case study mentions only one brand - their client.

Can you please elaborate what do you mean by that?

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by jareklupinski on Thursday November 25, 2021 @12:00PM (#29342921)
Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by jacquesm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @12:22PM (#29343143)
Oh, he's a spammer too. Not surprising I guess.
Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by tentacleuno on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:04AM (#29341944)
Sorry, to be clear I'm not accusing anyone. Just responding to OP's point about the 'hack' he pointed out the blog post was using. I am not entirely sure what is being referred to, but would be interested to hear if anyone has any ideas?
Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by thechilliguy on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:09AM (#29341979)
Yeah, people are complaining that one of the strategies was using tags and mentioning competitors in 20% of those tags.

But it looks like they aren't too familiar with the YouTube tagging system. No hard feelings, you can't please everyone! :D

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by thechilliguy on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:10AM (#29341990)
Also, this is NOT a blog post case study.

If anyone hasn't read it yet, it's a YouTube case study. Totally different.

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by jacquesm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:02AM (#29341920)
"20% should be other channels’ names"

Utterly disgusting.

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by thechilliguy on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:06AM (#29341957)
That's how the YouTube tagging system works, though.
Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by jacquesm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:13AM (#29342026)
No, that's how you are (ab)using it. Youtube tags are definitely not intended to be used to try to divert traffic intended for competitors to your pages.
Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by tentacleuno on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:24AM (#29342108)
Just re-read the post and no, that type of thing certainly isn't ideal. Apologies, OP. I'm still not sure if it's technically effectual with the YT algorithm, though. Would be an interesting talking point, that's for sure.
Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by thechilliguy on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:47AM (#29342285)
It's not an unethical hack, it actually helps the YT algorithm understand what category is the video part of. This works especially well in this scenario because kalari is a very narrow niche.

Tags do not boost your SEO at all, they rather help your video appear in the Recommended Videos section on the right of a YT video.

When I tagged competitors I was simply telling YT that it can show the videos to people watching another video from one of KalariLab's competitors.

There are 3 main ways to get views on YT when your channel is small:

1. SEO; 2. Homepage recommendations; 3. Recommended videos on other video pages.

The tactic with tags works only for the 3rd category above.

I hope that settles this discussion once and for all.

Sidenote: I still don't understand why this post was flagged...

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by jacquesm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @11:06AM (#29342430)
It's interesting to see the pretzels you twist yourself into in order to pretend that this is the intended way to use Youtube's tagging system. Whether you are doing it to hack the recommended videos section or whether you are doing it to benefit from some other means of discovery doesn't matter: you are engaging in deception.

People watching your customers' competitors are not yours to target through their brands, but you can target them through keywords that describe the content, not to use the names of your competitors.

The fact that you are still arguing this is proof positive to me that you are an unethical operator and that this is not just an innocent mistake.

This post was flagged because it is low value, unethical and ultimately an attempt to do to HN what you are already doing to youtube. You will find that HN has considerably more effective anti-bodies against SEO 'specialists' (I use the term liberally) hijacking the audience than youtube has.

Re:I grew a YouTube channel from 2k views per year to 2.4k p... by jacquesm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @09:58AM (#29341869)
I don't think I need to have HN's rules read back to me by you.