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Re:Cryptos can't fix societal, political or economic problems by joshspankit on Thursday November 25, 2021 @07:56AM (#29340953)
The main thing that the author missed (imo) is that the blockchain classifies as a genuine invention because it’s the first time in our history that we have had the technology for a completely trustworthy ledger.

To me, that is the intrinsic value. Not it’s use as a bank-free currency, or it’s ability to run smart contracts (though I think those could permanently change copyright for the better), but because we can have an undeniable and uncorrupted chain of custody.

Re:Cryptos can't fix societal, political or economic problems by pintxo on Thursday November 25, 2021 @09:04AM (#29341433)
Doesn't trust here only apply to things happening 100% within the chain?

Such that a currency created and traded only on a blockchain is trustworthy because everything is traceable on the chain. A bit like software without IO being quite easy to reason about.

But the moment we get externally created data (sensor readings etc), we need to trust the source.

Re:Cryptos can't fix societal, political or economic problems by joshspankit on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:22AM (#29342091)
Definitely. That’s a good point that the ledger is only a trustworthy account of what has happened on the chain, and we should never get fooled in to thinking that placing untrustworthy records on a trustworthy chain makes them trustworthy.
Re:Cryptos can't fix societal, political or economic problems by AstralStorm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @07:59AM (#29340975)
Completely trustworthy, because it has to be patched multiple times to fix security bugs. /s

There is no such thing. The ledger number does not come with any other warranty than amount of PC time used to compute it. It does not guarantee value, it does bot guarantee your transaction has fully proceeded, only that a specific amount of other number has been transferred.

Re:Cryptos can't fix societal, political or economic problems by joshspankit on Thursday November 25, 2021 @08:01AM (#29340992)
I’m confused by your pushback. Can you walk me through it?
Re:Cryptos can't fix societal, political or economic problems by AstralStorm on Thursday November 25, 2021 @08:02AM (#29341001)
Multiple blockchains including Bitcoin and Ethereum had to be forked to avoid perpetuating the state caused by exploited bugs or for other reasons. This implies that the state before the fork is untrustworthy, doesn't it?
Re:Cryptos can't fix societal, political or economic problems by joshspankit on Thursday November 25, 2021 @10:44AM (#29342258)
So here’s my position on that:

For the longest time I thought “when they crack the encryption, BTC will instantly turn to value-less dust” and so therefore thought it was limited to being of short-term use BUT the technology does not matter in a sense. Because the chain of ownership is clear and transparent, BTC (and other blockchains) could switch technology in an instant and still maintain the record of value.

Through this lens, I’m not at all concerned about bugs or forks because we’ve reached a point where the majority of the network is focused on the absolute correctness of the ledger. Everything else might as well be a mosquito on the highway.