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Re:Two Norwegian journalists arrested after interviewing Qat... by gerash on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @05:36PM (#29335978)
Off topic but are expat and immigrant the same concept?
Re:Two Norwegian journalists arrested after interviewing Qat... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @11:38PM (#29338265)
We would describe people by their packages:

1. Sent by company to work in another country with a full package: expat

2. Decided to work in another country doing white collar skilled or semi-skilled labor without a package but with no intention of (or ability to) staying: half pat

3. Poorer version of 2 doing less skilled or unskilled labor: migrant worker (not a lot of difference, actually)

4. Working in a foreign country on an actual visa that leads to at least permanent residency: immigrant

Note that China (where I was) doesn't really allow for 4, but there are definitely people who move there with the intention of staying (though their chance of ever getting a green card is very slim if they are not Han or a famous basketball star). I was in the 2 bucket, had a few lucky friends in the 1 bucket. The 3rd bucket was handled by migrant workers from out of province/city (so not technically migrant workers like we have in the states, but without residency via the hukou system they are exploited roughly the same).

Incidentally, the engineers China sends to Africa and south east Asia and other countries are definitely expats (though their packages aren't that big), the workers they send to do construction in the same areas are more like migrant workers. So it is not just a distinction made for westerners.

Re:Two Norwegian journalists arrested after interviewing Qat... by MaurizioPz on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @05:59PM (#29336197)
From what I understand (not native speaker) yes but from different points of view. You are an expat out of a country. You are an immigrant into a country.

So usually you are both.

Re:Two Norwegian journalists arrested after interviewing Qat... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @11:38PM (#29338270)
You are confusing expat with emigrant.
Re:Two Norwegian journalists arrested after interviewing Qat... by inawarminister on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @06:06PM (#29336263)
expat has the implications that you're only there for a while and will return home.

The true concept for immigration would be emigrant (emigres) but this doesn't seem to have popular English usage nowadays.

Re:Two Norwegian journalists arrested after interviewing Qat... by windock on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @05:55PM (#29336157)
Expat is a Western immigrant in non-Western country
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Re:Two Norwegian journalists arrested after interviewing Qat... by aliswe on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @07:06PM (#29336760)
tbh this isnt dubai terminology. all professionals call themselves expats.