Re:The unbearable fussiness of the smart home
by FireBeyond on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @02:28PM
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One of the challenges is this - on one hand, we have the "IoT is notoriously insecure and manufacturers have or should have liability" argument, which is valid, and when manufacturers do actually release security updates, that should be lauded.
And then on the other we have the usability pain like this. I'd rather pay a few dollars more for more storage or an A/B firmware system so the upgrade can run async and minimize interruption.
Re:The unbearable fussiness of the smart home
by outworlder on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @06:26PM
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Mandatory software updates are not the problem. Having to restart devices to install any updates (plus the fact that it takes 10 minutes) is the problems. It's possible to engineer around that.
Re:The unbearable fussiness of the smart home
by InvertedRhodium on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @04:34PM
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Just don't use wifi. When the only firmware you need to update is in the MQTT bridge, the whole problem becomes a non-issue.
Re:The unbearable fussiness of the smart home
by outworlder on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @06:26PM
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Zigbee or Zwave devices can have firmware vulnerabilities.
Re:The unbearable fussiness of the smart home
by InvertedRhodium on Monday November 29, 2021 @09:35PM
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The attack surface at least requires physical proximity, unlike devices addressable via IP.
Re:The unbearable fussiness of the smart home
by timc3 on Wednesday November 24, 2021 @12:13PM
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I have two hue bridges ( because I have over 60 lights) that have been working for a long time now and I have never seen this problem. It’s worked flawlessly.
I also have another zigbee dongle with zigbee2mqtt and zigbee2mqtt is what gives me problems particularly if the power goes out over the house.
After a time away, I tried to turn on lights with my phone -- only to be greeted by a message like "There is a mandatory update available for your bridge. You can use your system again after 10 minutes". I found not being able to turn on the lights for 10 minutes because they were installing unprompted updates completely unacceptable, so that was my last day as a Hue user. I now use a mix of Zigbee bulbs controlled with a (stable, offline) zigbee2mqtt gateway.