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Re:Reframing Tech Debt by wpietri on Monday November 22, 2021 @10:55AM (#29307746)
With that specific PM, we did daily standups the whole time. The problem is not the meeting format, it's letting a product manager think they're in charge of the technical work. You can't let them think they get to boss individuals around or decide how much work fits in a given time or what language you use.

Will product managers want to do more than is professionally responsible or even possible? Sure. It's their job to want things. Will some people try to get up in your business inappropriately? Also yes. But the answer to that is to set clear boundaries. Product people make product decisions. Technical people make technical decisions. And technical people need to be ready to answer in business terms why particular choices are optimal for the business. As well as being able to self-run the technical team so that others don't feel obliged to step into a power vacuum.

Re:Reframing Tech Debt by bern4444 on Monday November 22, 2021 @04:05PM (#29311565)
Totally, it's the separation of boundaries. My current company does this a lot better. My previous company the PMs definitely micromanaged the engineering teams
Re:Reframing Tech Debt by wpietri on Monday November 22, 2021 @04:21PM (#29311701)
Glad to hear you're in a better place!