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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by colechristensen on Sunday November 21, 2021 @09:43PM (#29302134)
This is English, not Latin or Greek. There’s no such thing as “correct” in language as long as you can be understood, especially for silly details like how to make a plural. You’ll find octopi in the dictionary because it is commonly used. Remember all words are made up anyway.

If you’re not the editor of a publication making local standards for how you want to use language, it’s better not to correct people when they’re perfectly well understood.

Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by twhb on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:25PM (#29302716)
Personally I don’t believe in “plural”. If there’s more than one of something I just say it: “I went to the aquarium and saw octopus octopus octopus. I’d tell you what I saw around the anthill outside, but I’m not sure you have the time.” :)
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by grose on Monday November 22, 2021 @12:33AM (#29303122)
I know this is a joke, but this is an actual thing in linguistics called reduplication. For example, hito (人) in Japanese means person, and hitobito (人人) means people, more or less. Japanese isn't the best example since they don't have "real" plurals but I think it's a fascinating phenomenon.
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by efitz on Monday November 22, 2021 @04:09AM (#29304379)
Same in Thai. “Child” is “dek”, children is “dek dek”.
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by doctor_eval on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:07PM (#29302302)
Yes. A dictionary doesn't tell you how to use words, it tells you how words are used.
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by onemiketwelve on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:39PM (#29302469)
dic·tion·ar·y /ˈdikSHəˌnerē/ noun a book or electronic resource that lists the words of a language (typically in alphabetical order) and gives their meaning, or gives the equivalent words in a different language, often also providing information about pronunciation, origin, and usage.
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by stordoff on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:59PM (#29302937)
Many dictionaries aim to be descriptive, not prescriptive, as doctor_eval said. That definition doesn't change that:

OED: "The Oxford English Dictionary is not an arbiter of proper usage, despite its widespread reputation to the contrary. The Dictionary is intended to be descriptive, not prescriptive. In other words, its content should be viewed as an objective reflection of English language usage, not a subjective collection of usage 'dos' and 'don'ts'. However, it does include information on which usages are, or have been, popularly regarded as 'incorrect'."[1]

Merriam-Webster: "Merriam-Webster is a descriptive dictionary in that it aims to describe and indicate how words are actually used by English speakers and writers. Generally, the descriptive approach to lexicography does not dictate how words should be used or set forth rules of "correctness," unlike the prescriptive approach."[2]

OUP: "All of Oxford Languages' content aims to describe, rather than prescribe, the way languages are used by people around the world."[3]

I believe your definition comes from one of the Oxford dictionaries - iOS lists it as coming from the Oxford Dictionary of English, and Lexico (a partnership with Oxford, whose About page links to [3]) includes it[4].

[1] https://www.oed.com/public/oed3guide/guide-to-the-third-edit...

[2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/descriptive-vs...

[3] https://languages.oup.com/about-us/how-we-create-language-co...

[4] https://www.lexico.com/definition/dictionary

Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by monkeybutton on Sunday November 21, 2021 @09:58PM (#29302239)
This is what it comes down to in the end. Words are memes, and the best replicating meme wins.
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by onemiketwelve on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:31PM (#29302420)
May the dankest words prevail