Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters
by tonyarkles on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:22PM
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If morality were axiomatic, then worldwide we would have a collective shared understanding of what is right or wrong, immutable over time. That’s clearly not the case.
Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters
by pasquinelli on Monday November 22, 2021 @12:31AM
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maybe not in every detail, but are the broad strokes really so varried?
Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters
by chillacy on Tuesday November 23, 2021 @12:42PM
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Certainly morality is a shared part of us all, it was evolved to create ingroup cohesion and resist outgroups in humans, so there are a lot of commonalities like reciprocity, justice, etc.
It’s the divvying up of ingroup and out group that tend to create disagreements in morality. I.e. we understand forgiveness, but we disagree who is worthy. We understand justice but we disagree who deserves punishment or why.
That tends to make a pretty big difference in results and conclusions.
Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters
by naniwaduni on Monday November 22, 2021 @01:44AM
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Yes.
Let's put it this way - the argument above would also apply to saying that a private citizen who catches a thief stealing their catalytic convertor can torture them slowly and painfully for weeks without actually killing them. You owe them no moral consideration, it's a deterrent, etc. Do you need someone to make a persuasive argument against the merits of that to realize that it's abhorrent?