Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters

Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters by foxrider on Sunday November 21, 2021 @05:20PM (#29300341)

I think you're confusing rights with something else here. I'm specifically talking about natural rights, and I don't know if you're trying to steer the dialog into "what is a right" or just have a wrong idea, but I am not interested in philosophy or deconstruction of well established concepts

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Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters by uoaei on Sunday November 21, 2021 @06:25PM (#29300825)

And who is it that gets to draw the boundary around "natural rights"?

The point being that humans defining natural rights goes against the concept of "natural". The entire exercise is a catch-22.

Funny how in each case where this comes up, natural rights always means something different. Almost as if the term is consistently used retroactively to justify extreme measures rather than to inform people of their rights per se.

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Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters by Dracophoenix on Sunday November 21, 2021 @10:56PM (#29302549)

A natural right is a right that you are born with. Rights aren't defined prescriptively in the way that you imply. They're enumerated and acknowledged. Not granted.

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Re:Why thieves love to steal catalytic converters by uoaei on Monday November 22, 2021 @03:40PM (#29311346)

Enumerated and acknowledged by whom? What happens when two people disagree about what is a natural right?

You have not proposed a solution to this issue.

Your reply also stinks of moral realism which is a huge can of worms unto itself.

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