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Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by hn_throwaway_99 on Friday November 19, 2021 @08:15PM (#29284671)
> When you are privileged you have no extra weight or leg up over someone else on standardized tests.

That is demonstrably not true. Wealthy people can and do spend legions on test prep and tutoring.

But that said, I generally agree with some of the underlying sentiment, which is that many wealthy people value education and status that can be attained through scholastic achievement in a way that many poor people do not. I think that even if you had loads of high quality, free SAT prep classes and tutors that you'd still see a large test score gap.

Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by rayiner on Saturday November 20, 2021 @12:01AM (#29285700)
This is an unscientific point. One, test prep doesn’t help that much. Two, it’s not that expensive: https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/06/21/...

> For them, Jiechu's price – $650 for a seven-week summer course, four hours a day, Monday to Friday – is a doable stretch. That comes to a bit less than $5 an hour, which is not exactly the “thousands of dollars in test prep” that Mr. Carranza cited.

Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by pjmorris on Monday November 22, 2021 @01:25PM (#29309864)
I'd think it's less about test prep than it is about a stable home and family environment, how well/poorly local schools are funded, access to public libraries and the leisure time required of both parent and child to able to use all of the above. All of which is a lot more than $650 and all of which favors wealthier people.
Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by thrashh on Saturday November 20, 2021 @01:52AM (#29286111)
$650 is a lot of money for a lot of people
Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday November 20, 2021 @03:27PM (#29291555)
In a lot of places these days it's really easy to get a $15/hr job (I mean that's like entry-level fast food work, ubering, etc.) So $650 works out to slightly more than a week's work, be super conservative with taxes/expenses/benefits and let's say 2 weeks.

So 2 weeks' work is a considerable amount of work, but it's also certainly within the realm of possibility for the vast, vast majority of people. I'd really say this just highlights how some communities value educational attainment and others do not.

Sure, it's much easier to come up with $650 if you're rich than if you're poor, but that's true of just about anything. $650 is certainly within the reach of nearly everyone, it just depends on whether your parents are willing to sacrifice for it.

Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by thrashh on Sunday November 21, 2021 @04:02AM (#29295061)
I could afford private flights on my salary, for my example, and it’s true: “it’s just more hours.”

The only thing is… I can’t find more hours in my week.

And the real bigger issue is, even through I can afford it, it may be hard to justify it because it amounts to a major opportunity cost.

For a working class family, they probably are going to find it difficult to source $650. …Especially if no one has gone to college and no one even knows the importance of that $650.

If $650 seems like nothing, all that you are saying is that your social group is limited to people who find $650 to be nothing. It’s like the Lucille Bluth banana quote in living…

Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by rayiner on Sunday November 21, 2021 @11:00PM (#29302567)
Nobody is saying it’s nothing. But virtually nobody is so poor that saving up $650 per kid one time is beyond teach.
Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by JamesBarney on Saturday November 20, 2021 @11:30AM (#29289471)
Money helps with any metric.

If your GPA is bad, a tutor will help far more with GPA than test prep will help with your SAT and cost far more.

School project, if you live in a household where one parent doesn't have to work, they can basically do your whole project moving a 50 to a 95.

Extra curriculars, these require a large investment of time and money that is harder for a single working parent to pull off.

College entrance essays. You can literally just pay someone to write them.

You can't look at SATs in a vacuum. You have to compare it to the other possible metrics which all privilege the privileged more.

Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by rayiner on Saturday November 20, 2021 @01:48PM (#29290728)
Not really, for a one-time per kid expense. Asian immigrants are among the poorest people in NYC and they scrape it together.
Re:Tech journalism is less diverse than tech (2020) by relaxing on Saturday November 20, 2021 @10:17AM (#29288800)
Who is downvoting this?