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Re:Designing transport for humans, not econs by sokoloff on Friday November 19, 2021 @03:46PM (#29282227)
I’d agree with that to a point. It breaks down when the difference in time is greater than an hour. I’m not leaving Boston on a train to Las Vegas or a boat to Aruba.

It also breaks down when the alternative transportation (typically an alternative to a car in the US) doesn’t provide a key function that the car provides.

If I’m going to play a round of golf or softball game after work, my car doubles as a secure (enough) locker for that equipment and transportation directly to the sports location. If I’m going to a town 30 miles away, my car serves as a conveyance not only for that 30 miles but also for local transit while I’m there. My car is likewise ready for me in 5 minutes of walking to, unlocking, and starting it. I never “miss” my car by it leaving without me and once I’m there, I never have to wait for my next car to depart.

If it was easy to displace cars, more progress would already have been made, because they’re expensive already in terms of fixed costs. Once the fixed costs are covered, the apparent cost per incremental trip seems very modest.

Re:Designing transport for humans, not econs by tuatoru on Friday November 19, 2021 @04:18PM (#29282645)
You make very good points that I have not seen "shared mobility" advocates address. The idea that people will give up owning cars... well, it presumes a whole lot of other lifestyle changes have happened beforehand.

Cars must be very valuable. In a blog explaining why hydrogen will never be a transport fuel,[1] the author mentioned in passing that cars average well under 4% utilization, and the average fill frequency is once per month.

To have something so expensive and little used, the option of being able to use it on demand must be highly valuable. And as you say it's secure storage and portage.

1. In a month, a steel-walled 200 bar hydrogen tank with 10 mm (0.4 inch) thick walls will lose over 80% of its hydrogen through its walls.

Re:Designing transport for humans, not econs by reidjs on Friday November 19, 2021 @05:14PM (#29283269)
How would you feel about public lockers near high traffic areas as a potential solution to that? I know that there is the potential these will get robbed anyways, but cars get robbed all the time anyways (SF).

There is definitely maintenance and cultural expenses for public lockers, but there’s no way it’s anywhere near as expensive or time consuming as maintaining roads.

Re:Designing transport for humans, not econs by sokoloff on Friday November 19, 2021 @05:41PM (#29283571)
If would depend on the details whether or not they were competitive with a car’s trunk.

Can they fit a golf bag? Can I know that I’ll get one when I show up? Is it roughly on the way? If I’m wanting to go home to office to golf to dinner/drinks to home in a day, how different is it to go home to transit to transit/locker to work to locker/transit to transit to golf to locker to dinner to locker to home?

Before kids, I’d play sports 4-5 nights a week. These fields often take up a lot of space (it’s obviously hard to fit a golf course in a high density area) meaning public transit would never be robust to get to them.

Re:Designing transport for humans, not econs by kristjansson on Friday November 19, 2021 @05:40PM (#29283552)
Not public, but gyms/athletic clubs fit this description in some cities. If you have a private, permanent locker at a gym/club close to your office, you can stash clothes, equipment etc. to avoid hauling everything back and forth on transit.

Doesn't really solve for sports like softball and golf that GP mentioned since those are in lower-traffic areas basically by necessity.