A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in Europe

Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by atoav on Friday November 19, 2021 @02:04AM (#29274561)

I recall the times when this was being discussed and from an European perspective it seemed curious that the US tech crowd was so eager to ban Huawei products — especially after there being multiple cases of back-/bugdoors in the gear of american vendors, while at that point there was none with Huawei gear that we knew of.

I don't trust chinese gear. But I also don't trust the gear built in a nation where the patriot act is active.

The answer is to use a propper vendor mix and to think carefully what is used where.

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Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by sdoering on Friday November 19, 2021 @02:24AM (#29274682)

Additionally it isn't that we have a clean slate in Germany (as an example) ourselves [1].

We can't trust any vendors. Be it soft- or hardware. Be it cloud. At least not when thinking about state level actors.

Nations need to think, as you said, about propper vendor mix and risk assessment.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG?wprov=sfla1

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Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by Fnoord on Friday November 19, 2021 @06:50AM (#29276264)

Crypto AG was Swiss, not German.

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Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by bierjunge on Friday November 19, 2021 @09:37AM (#29277588)

It was mainly operated by BND, a german intelligence agency. GCHQ and NSA were also involved.

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Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by emodendroket on Friday November 19, 2021 @02:45AM (#29274803)

Well, you've stumbled on the real reason for panic and dubious stories about Chinese spying -- the actual problem is it presents a possible hindrance to our own spying because the Chinese won't play ball.

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