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Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by ycombigator on Thursday November 18, 2021 @11:02PM (#29273698)
The west is, to a large degree, institutionally captured.

Consumer boycott is the only solution.

Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by agul29 on Friday November 19, 2021 @12:02AM (#29274000)
The West is instutionally captured by established power structures whose financial and political profit is dependant on a new Cold War, in which the bulk of the Red Scare-ish craziness is realized as yellow perilist propaganda.
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by stickfigure on Friday November 19, 2021 @12:26AM (#29274117)
On the other hand, watching western actors grovel in public because they had the temerity to call Taiwan a nation makes me inclined to think that there's something actually perilous here.
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by sofixa on Friday November 19, 2021 @05:59AM (#29275968)
But Taiwan isn't an independent country. Nobody of note recognises it as such, and heck, they barely claim to be one! It's a vastly complex subject with tons of history, you can't just reduce it to "Taiwan should be called a nation". (they should ideally become an independent nation, but that's besides the point)
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by stickfigure on Sunday November 21, 2021 @12:04AM (#29294319)
Taiwan is self-governing, has its own armed forces, passports, and fully controls its own borders. That makes it a nation, no matter what you want to call it.
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by sofixa on Sunday November 21, 2021 @12:27PM (#29297970)
A nation requires none of those to be a nation, look at indigenous nations in the US and Canada.

A country needs to be self-governing, autonomous, and recognised by the majority of UN members. Taiwan isn't recognised by any country of note, including the US, so they fail the country test.

Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by stickfigure on Monday November 22, 2021 @11:05AM (#29307876)
> A country needs to be ... recognised by the majority of UN members.

Are you trying to be funny? Because that's hilarious.

Also, nobody (including the residents) considers the reservations in north america to be "nations". I'm guessing you've never actually been here.

Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by sofixa on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:41PM (#29355484)
Do tell what you think is the criteria for a country being one. Is Transnistria one? South Ossetia? Taiwan? A native American tribe? The US? An American state? It's a trick question!

A native American tribe is a nation, by definition [1]. Heck, the Canadians call theirs "First Nations".

A country requires sovereignty over some land, people, and international recognition. Without the last part, Sealand was a country. Funnily enough, depending on how strict you're with the criteria, some native American tribes are countries, and the US isn't always one due to reservations and states sovereignties.

1 - `a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory` Oxford English dictionary

Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by cinquemb on Friday November 19, 2021 @01:32AM (#29274438)
And to me its seems the antidote in part is hyper decentralized, cross nation state jurisdictional distributed, and transparent structures of power and wealth that seeks to cannibalize and eventually obsolete the existing financial system.

Only on a few servers in the world where I can see users speaking mandarin, english, farsi, turkish, etc where their wealth goes up as their leaders in their respective countries increase their malfeasance…

Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by selfhoster11 on Friday November 19, 2021 @05:55AM (#29275937)
It's not being perilist if you really are in peril.
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by blackoil on Friday November 19, 2021 @01:54AM (#29274513)
Consumer's can't agree on wearing masks or if earth is flat. I don't see any measurable impact by consumers in reasonably near future.
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by riffraff on Friday November 19, 2021 @01:11AM (#29274345)
Many countries in west cut out Huawei from 5g contracts.

It seems just as easy to cut Xiaomi out from consumer phones.

Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by swiley on Thursday November 18, 2021 @11:35PM (#29273884)
Or just make non-free consumer software illegal.
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by tjs8rj on Thursday November 18, 2021 @11:52PM (#29273962)
By this do you mean making all consumer software free and all new consumer software must be free?
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by _-david-_ on Thursday November 18, 2021 @11:53PM (#29273964)
Wouldn't solve the issue. You can have censorship with open source software and so long as there is a locked bootloader you couldn't easily replace the software. Also, even if the bootloader was unlocked the majority of people aren't technical enough to replace the software that is doing the censorship.
Re:A Xiaomi phone might’ve shipped with a censorship list in... by nine_k on Friday November 19, 2021 @12:19AM (#29274075)
There is a fundamental contradiction between safety and freedom. The more you are in control, the more you need to know and pay attention too. Any guard rails necessarily limit your choice of path.

In other words, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance, and there is a lot of people who do not want to pay that price. They just need stuff done, no matter what.