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Re:The benefits of not belonging by dnissley on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @04:29PM (#29246565)
This is a very rosy view of rural America, to which I am a frequent visitor. Just a few dysfunctions off the top of my head:

- Reactionary politics were born in rural America, urban America is just catching up these days.

- The value system of rural America is dismissive of nerdy/intellectual pursuits, and so it drives out talent that was already enticed by the opportunities present in cities.

- More broadly there is a kind of pride in being very separate/distinct from the other parts of America, but it seems pretty shallow to me -- the emphasis seems mostly to be on the material trappings of "ruralness" (being a farmer, having a big truck, wearing camo patterns), and not on the values themselves.

- And perhaps rolled up in politics, but I feel the need to call it out because I sense it on display in your comment: An eagerness to play the victim to the rest of America. "It's just those city folks that cause all our problems."

Re:The benefits of not belonging by RobertRoberts on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @05:03PM (#29246890)
Come live out here for a while, talk with people, understand them.

I've lived all over, including LA, east coast, south, Chicago, near the border of Mexico (I worked with illegals there even in sweat shops).

Rural America is garden of peace and contentment compared to the urban areas.

Your views are admitedly from a visitor... and there is no way you can compare them equally that way.

Ignore Foxnews & CNN and get to know rural America before condemning it.

Re:The benefits of not belonging by fumar on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @06:03PM (#29247367)
First, I am glad you found a place that suits you. I grew up in a suburb adjacent to a major city up until high school, then I moved to the rural midwest. As a minority, I found it near impossible to fit in. All of my beliefs, from ethnicity-based to city-based, were misaligned to the general consensus of the rural mindset.

Sure, there was open space and generally it was green or pale yellow from the corns, but it was a terrible place for a young mind. I didn't like football or wrestling and I didn't love confederate flags on pick up trucks. The general take was that I was an outsider not to be friends with. Eventually, I made friends but I can still hear the "he is okay, he is like a white [insert minority]" from adults and people at school.

This was in the late 90's and early 2000's before Fox and CNN doubled-down on extreme views. People in rural America hated immigrants just as much then as they do know.

Re:The benefits of not belonging by RobertRoberts on Thursday November 18, 2021 @09:21AM (#29265665)
Having different "likes" doesn't mean a place isn't peaceful or calm. My OC was that the larger cities are where the insanity has been happening for almost ever.

People can be unhappy anywhere, but also people can learn to get along anywhere too... unless there is a riot side your house, or a shooting next door. These are outside your personal influence.

Re:The benefits of not belonging by KittenInABox on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @05:17PM (#29247008)
I lived in Rural America as a clear immigrant of color (my parents not fluent in English) and it sucked ass.
Re:The benefits of not belonging by RobertRoberts on Thursday November 18, 2021 @09:18AM (#29265617)
I've lived in a large city and it was miserable to until I learned the ways of those people.
Re:The benefits of not belonging by MisterBastahrd on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @06:05PM (#29247387)
No it isn't. People in rural America assume that if you're in rural America then you already believe the exact same things that they do, based largely on skin color. Try living there and going against that grain and see how "peaceful and contented" they are.
Re:The benefits of not belonging by nitrogen on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @09:05PM (#29248618)
My experience has been that that's true of the city too, just from the other side.
Re:The benefits of not belonging by joelbluminator on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @09:16PM (#29248673)
Some of them are indeed kind of victims. There are dirt poor people living there who are called white trash. Sounds like a victim to me.
Re:The benefits of not belonging by dnissley on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @09:33PM (#29248773)
Sure, I'd agree with that. It's one thing to have grievances, it's another thing to be infected by a victim mindset where your grievances are always top of mind, keeping you from taking an accurate inventory of yourself, keeping you from doing what you can to improve your situation in life (and by extension your community's position in the world).