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Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by 0des on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:00PM (#29234088)
What is an assault rifle?
Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by HideousKojima on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:54PM (#29235704)
To answer your lower question since I can't respond directly, the legal difference between a rifle and pistol is pretty much only barrel length. Overall length also matters, and whether or not the AR "started out" (at manufacture) as a rifle or pistol determine if it becomes a "short barreled rifle" after certain modifications, but that's getting into the inane and nonsensical world of ATF regulations.

As far as what an assault rifle is, it's basically a rifle capable of burst fire or automatic fire (it's a bit more complicated than that but that's the basic idea). Rittenhouse's AR (and virtually all civilian owned firearms for that matter) are not capable of burst or automatic fire and are not assault rifles.

Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by curryst on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @12:10AM (#29237097)
> To answer your lower question since I can't respond directly, the legal difference between a rifle and pistol is pretty much only barrel length.

This is only half-true. The difference between a pistol and a rifle is whether it has a stock. The difference between a normal rifle and a short-barreled rifle is whether the barrel is 16" or not.

I'm not saying it makes more sense, but that is the classification the ATF uses. Never put a stock on any weapon with less than a 16" barrel, unless you're really, really, really sure you fall under some kind of exemption (i.e. that might not apply to black powder weapons).

Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by ryantgtg on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:27PM (#29234935)
It’s a really big rifle. Next question.
Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by remarkEon on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:42PM (#29235585)
It's not.

Most hunting rifles for e.g. deer rifles fire larger caliber rounds than the rifle in question in the case. Perhaps you're being sarcastic, but "big" does not necessarily mean "more deadly", nor does "big" actually apply to this rifle.

Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by 0des on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:48PM (#29235642)
Thank you for the reply! While I have the chance, allow me one last question: When it comes to AR15 platform, what differentiates a pistol from a rifle?
Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by remarkEon on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:03PM (#29235793)
Disclaimer: I own a few guns and am an Army vet, but this is just my current understanding. I recommend consulting the ATF guidelines yourself and/or your local sheriff's office since rules tend to vary by state and jurisdiction.

The ATF makes these rules, and currently (my understanding, haven't looked in a while to see if anything changed with the new administration) an AR pistol is something that's less than 26" overall with a barrel of less than 16". There's also rules about how you can't put an actual buttstock on it (but you can put a "brace" ... the definition of which can be confusing). Anything shorter than that and does have an actual stuck is an SBR (short-barrel rifle) and you need an ATF tax stamp for that.

Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by 0des on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:30PM (#29235996)
I appreciate your time to explain that, thanks. I'm now off on a journey to find the exact line between what is a brace and what is a stock! Take care, my friend.
Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by ryantgtg on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:20PM (#29236783)
Thank you for the explanation (genuinely). I wasn't exactly being sarcastic, though - my interest is in the messaging that this gun carries when wielding it in a urban environment during a riot.
Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by cbozeman on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @02:02AM (#29237723)
> the messaging that this gun carries when wielding it in a urban environment during a riot.

The "messaging"??

The only thing wrong with the "messaging" was that every single citizen of Kenosha didn't show up with AR-15s to ensure all of the out-of-towners weren't able to burn down anything, or try to assault anyone.

If you can spend time to riot, you can spend time filling out resumes for a job. I don't have time to fucking riot... I'm too busy working. These people should have been too. You wanna make the world better for people? Tell them to stop committing sexual assault and stealing people's SUVs. If Jacob Blake hadn't been doing those things, he wouldn't have had a warrant out for his arrest, he wouldn't have been shot for trying to go for his knife, Kenosha wouldn't have had rioting, Joseph Kiddiediddler and Dumbshit Skaterboi would still be alive, the prosecution's star witness would still have his bicep, and Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't be in this mess.

Amazing how two people had to die, and two others had their lives ruined, and we had hundreds of thousands of dollars in property damage, all because a black man in Kenosha thinks he doesn't have to obey the law, only to find out very dramatically that he will in fact obey the law.

It's almost like obeying society's law results in a harmonious society!

Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by dahfizz on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:37PM (#29236909)
> my interest is in the messaging that this gun carries when wielding it in a urban environment during a riot.

Yeah, exactly. ""Assault"" rifles are defined entirely by your emotional response to seeing it. It's a concept invented by the media.

Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by remarkEon on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:49PM (#29236986)
I wouldn't say the concept was "invented" by the media, but it does have a swirling personality around it that feels that way. Obviously I am biased, but "assault" to me always meant the rifle has ergonomic enhancements that make it safer to employ since you can better control recoil, among other things. That's ... not exactly something you'll hear on CNN.
Re:YouTube takes down independent court livestreams by remarkEon on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:45PM (#29236962)
That isn't relevant to the case, but I understand what you're getting at.