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Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by cblconfederate on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:53PM (#29231853)
Gaming; general office stuff ; peripherals
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by dkersten on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:07PM (#29232775)
Dunno what you mean by peripherals, at least ones that don't work on Linux, but the other two categories work just fine. Gaming has come a long way thanks to Valve and their work on Proton.
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by ericd on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:40PM (#29233153)
I'm guessing you're not someone who would describe themselves as a "gamer"?

EDIT: (I don't mean this in a mean way, just to say that people who care a lot about being able to play specific games probably still won't be satisfied without a Windows box).

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by dkersten on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:46PM (#29235091)
I play plenty of games and have a Steam library of ~400 or so games. I haven't had a Windows install in a few years. The only issues I've had with Windows games on Linux, using Proton on Steam, is that it doesn't work in Wayland (but every game I've tried works fine under X, of course I do check ProtonDB.com before buying games that don't have official Linux support).
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by ericd on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:07PM (#29235829)
Oh nice, I clearly need to read up on Proton, there’re some Windows-only games I’ve been missing.

Would you say it’d satisfy for twitch shooters?

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by dkersten on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @06:48AM (#29239469)
I personally don’t play many, but generally you won’t see any performance difference. Do check ProtonDB to see if the ones you have in mind work as expected. Typically games that are rated platinum work as well as on Windows, Gold typically works well but some people had some issues (Check the comments, sometimes the issues are unrelated things like the launcher not working but the game works fine) while anything else expect headaches. Some multiplayer shooters have issues with anti cheat for example.
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by ericd on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @07:36AM (#29239799)
Yeah, I don't either, mostly just curious since that seems like it'd be the most demanding category. I've actually mostly been missing Battle Brothers which is... not latency sensitive. And it looks like ProtonDB gives it a platinum! Thanks for the pointer to that.

Sadly looks like a lot of the top 10 are in "Borked" status, though.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by dkersten on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @03:16PM (#29245844)
> Sadly looks like a lot of the top 10 are in "Borked" status, though.

50% of them, but 2 of the 5 broken games are known to be buggy in general (New Worlds anyway, PUBG was years ago, no idea how it fares nowadays so maybe I'm wrong) so dunno how much of that is Proton's fault. The two gold ones seem hit or miss: many people report they work, but some people have issues.

Still, a lot of AAA games work perfectly (eg Sekiro) and many games I play even have native Linux versions (Crusader Kings 3 being the main one, I'm hoping with the steam deck more devs will release Linux versions but maybe that's too optimistic) and most of the indie games I play work well, so for me, I've been pretty happy and haven't looked back.