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Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by abetusk on Monday November 15, 2021 @01:51PM (#29231036)
This book is distributed under a non commercial license (CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0) [0].

While I understand that language is evolving and that only under a "strict definition" of open access does it mean removing barriers to copying and reuse [1], it's seems pretty duplicitous to say it's "open" while putting it under a non-commercial license.

[0] https://github.com/rougier/scientific-visualization-book/blo...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_access&oldid...

Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by mindcrime on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:05PM (#29231988)
it's seems pretty duplicitous to say it's "open" while putting it under a non-commercial license.

I can't really agree with that. For open source, yes, the OSD does make it clear that the definition does not permit licenses that prevent commercial resale. But "open access" for scientific works, or just technical documentation in general, does not seem - in vernacular use - to entail such a strict requirement.

Of course as an advocate of "free culture" in the most general sense, I might say I would prefer a book, paper, article, etc. to be published under something less restrictive. But I see nothing "duplicitious"[1] about this particular usage.

Consider that the corresponding Wikipedia entry on Open Access[2] contains this blurb, which supports the idea that both "gratis open access" and "libre open access" would be considered sub-types of the more general idea of "open access."

Similar to the free content definition, the terms 'gratis' and 'libre' were used in the BOAI definition to distinguish between free to read versus free to reuse.[38] Gratis open access (Free to read) refers to online access free of charge, and libre open access (open access) refers to online access free of charge plus some additional re-use rights

[1]: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/duplicitous

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access

Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by jjnoakes on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:02PM (#29231952)
To expand upon this a little, it's worth noting that the book and the code are licensed separately and differently.
Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by rougier on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:50PM (#29232538)
Yes, code is BSD licensed.
Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by rougier on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:49PM (#29232528)
The NC part was mostly to avoid having someone to sell the book on some platform without my knowledge.
Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by abetusk on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:22PM (#29235441)
I'm not addressing the issue of whether you receive compensation for your work or your desire to have control over who copies it.

I'm pointing out that you've stated it's "open access" without making it open access, at least for a strict interpretation of open access.

Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by fault1 on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @08:07AM (#29240063)
this is not the (common) interpretation of open access, which usually means, "no paywall".
Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by marmaduke on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:18PM (#29231399)
Maybe you could explain why a non commercial license would not be open, for anyone not looking to turn a profit off of the author’s work?
Re:An open access book on scientific visualization using Pyt... by poulpy123 on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @03:18AM (#29238175)
I can freely read, share and modify the book. The only restrictions is that I can't sell it. It's pretty open in my eyes ,even if it doesn't comply strictly to the definition of this or this organisation.

on the same topic, I've seen people say that GPL isn't free for example.