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Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by superasn on Monday November 15, 2021 @01:10PM (#29230478)
1. Yes first thing I run if I ever have to use a Windows PC is this little gem called Shutup 10 (1).

2. Then there is another software called 10AppsManager (2) to remove further bloatware like Onedrive, Skype, etc.

3. After that I visit ninite.com (3) to get the usual software without toolbars and spyware.

4. For other software like ffmpeg I use choco or chocolatey (4).

I am now a full time linux user but this was the least painful way to get my PC running before that. I'm sure things have changed or improved since, but this really worked for me 2 years ago.. hope this helps someone.

(1) https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

(2) https://www.thewindowsclub.com/10appsmanager-windows-10

(3) https://www.ninite.com

(4) https://chocolatey.org/

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by dharmon on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:05PM (#29231230)
This is great! Thanks!

I am forced to use a Windows machine sometimes for work, and to me the unpardonable sin is that Windows seems to randomly reboot _without asking me_! I come to my office and all my open sessions are gone. How do you turn this off?! I try turning off the setting but it randomly turns itself back on.

Also, how do people set up a reasonable dev environment not built around Visual Studio? On my Mac I just use Terminal + MacVim (with my plugins), so I don't have particularly demanding needs. I tried WSL, but its just Linux side-by-side with Windows, not integrated with windows. If that's what I wanted I would just use Linux, but I need a command-line where I can still build Windows apps. Currently I use bash-for-git (so I can run `cmake --build ...`) but its so non-standard in lots of ways that it drives me a little nutty.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by Arrath on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:13PM (#29231333)
> I am forced to use a Windows machine sometimes for work, and to me the unpardonable sin is that Windows seems to randomly reboot _without asking me_! I come to my office and all my open sessions are gone. How do you turn this off?!

That's the neat part, you don't! Windows loves to revert those settings after every major update, even if you dig into the registry and scheduler and change the settings at the source. It is one of my biggest gripes.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by EricE on Friday November 19, 2021 @12:36PM (#29279876)
One of the best things Apple added to macOS a while back was the reopen all windows on startup. I don't even think twice about rebooting my Mac any more. Windows could sorely use the equivalent.

One way I dramatically reduce the amount of random reboots is I have a thing that looks like a USB flash drive but it has a few switches on the side - one of them, when activated, randomly moves the mouse every 1-5 minutes (there is also a hardware wheel knob that lets you customize the duration). It was meant to be a practical joke thing - slip it onto the back of a friends PC and drive them nuts, but it works great at tricking Windows to think the computer is being actively used. It doesn't stop all reboots caused by Windows updates, but it dramatically reduces them.

I also use it to keep my work PC awake when attending online meetings, or especially when I'm presenting. We have mandatory screen saver timeouts and for some reason I can't convince the IT overlords to tweak group policy to allow non-admins the ability to enable presentation mode. Oh well. At least they haven't resorted to only allowing whitelisted USB devices to run so my little joke USB fob still does its thing. I got it from Think Geek in their heyday but there are tons of similar devices on Amazon.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by vsareto on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:25PM (#29235963)
Tell your browser to reopen the tabs it had when it exits. Try looking into these settings as well: https://www.windowsdigitals.com/windows-10-reopen-applicatio...
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by arghnoname on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:45PM (#29233935)
I moved from Linux to Windows for less hassle with hardware and sleep. I stopped using windows because of the reboot issue (and hassle with sleep...laptops kept waking and burning out in my bag). I went to ridiculous lengths to avoid it rebooting when I had a bunch of VMs running doing long-running computations and it just kept biting me. Sometimes the VM disk would get corrupted from this.

Eventually I realized it hated me and wanted me to fail in life, or perhaps click on all the crappy games or whatever it insisted on installing from time to time.

I don't love everything about macOS, but it's the least bad option and to my mind and for my needs, it's not even close.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by asqueella on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @04:04PM (#29258815)
The idea to regularly update "Active Hours", so that Windows can never update, implemented as a simple script https://github.com/marcosbozzani/Win10ActiveHours still works for me to this day.
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by InvaderFizz on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @02:59AM (#29238055)
I used the debugger method[0] to control Windows Update. It redirects the call to the reboot scheduler that is called by Windows Update.

This has worked flawlessly for almost two years and multiple Windows feature updates.

0: https://lazyadmin.nl/it/how-to-stop-automatic-restart-win-10...

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by latexr on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @07:52AM (#29239921)
> Windows seems to randomly reboot _without asking me_! I come to my office and all my open sessions are gone.

You’re not safe from reboots even if you’re actively using the machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReHafyiDTR0

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by blep-arsh on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:10PM (#29234797)
Reboots should be configurable via Windows Update settings if these aren't taken over by a group policy. Last time I've dealt with random reboots turned out to be a hardware issue (bluescreen->autoreboot).
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by joconde on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:34PM (#29232328)
Note that Windows now has an official package manager called WinGet (https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli), which worked very well when I tried it a few months ago; Skype and OneDrive can now be uninstalled without an external tool; and disabling all telemetry also seems to weaken antivirus protection.
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by simonebrunozzi on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:06PM (#29233462)
Is it named after apt-get ? (loved Debian and always will)
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by joconde on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @02:34AM (#29237896)
I guess? :) There’s also NuGet in Visual Studio.
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by BizarroLand on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:06PM (#29234135)
Just a quick shoutout to Ruckzuck (https://ruckzuck.tools/)

I like it far more than Ninite and it is a good way to find some open source software that you may not have heard about or used before, quickly install the programs, and keep them up to date with only a few clicks.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by sneak on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:55PM (#29232599)
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by datavirtue on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:54PM (#29234635)
Omg...Skype for business has been dead forever but the app lives on. Can't be removed...I have deleted it manually and it still starts up. Wtf?

Perhaps I should spend more time figuring this out. Meh.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by marmaduke on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:25PM (#29231490)
From (1)

> Some services … share your WLAN access data with your facebook contacts

Is that true? There’s no citation but seems a lot more flagrant a violation than I’d expected from Windows.

Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by linuxlizard on Monday November 15, 2021 @01:53PM (#29231056)
This is some great stuff. Thank you! I'm definitely going to lean into chocolatey. My daily driver is Linux but I still need a Windows machine around.
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by nathanaldensr on Monday November 15, 2021 @01:36PM (#29230843)
They haven't changed. That's nearly the exact process I still use for for work and home PCs.
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by petra on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:40PM (#29232410)
Why use ninite instead of chocolatey ? what's the difference?
Re:If Apple keeps letting its software slip, the next big th... by syntheticnature on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @05:05PM (#29246906)
Late, but in looking at things it looks like there are a significant number of things that Ninite will install and Chocolatey does not. While one can re-run the Ninite installer later for updates I do prefer the less all-or-nothing model of Chocolatey.