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Re:Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time by cutler on Thursday November 11, 2021 @11:34PM (#29196339)
Ah, Zend - the only framework to out-boilerplate Spring MVC.
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Re:Rich Harris joins Vercel to work on Svelte full time by DonHopkins on Saturday November 13, 2021 @03:33AM (#29208354)
Naw, the Python/Zope/ZODB/CMF/Plone/TAL/MeTAL/TALES stack can out-boilerplate the yin-yang out of Zend.

Each of those Dagwood Sandwich layers has its own special purpose object system that leaks abstracts to all of the other layers, and its own domain specific languages for writing boilerplate that sprays those abstraction leaks all over the place. ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagwood_sandwich

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