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Re:How trains could replace planes in Europe by sokoloff on Thursday November 11, 2021 @07:50PM (#29195138)
> compared to the very tight seats on a plane with no internet at all

I can't remember the last airliner that I was on that didn't have WiFi. Is WiFi uncommon in Europe?

Re:How trains could replace planes in Europe by wsc981 on Thursday November 11, 2021 @11:55PM (#29196416)
I haven't had Wifi in any of my flights between Thailand and Amsterdam (KLM). Maybe I've always had older planes on this route or something. I haven't flown between any other 2 destinations for the last couple of years.
Re:How trains could replace planes in Europe by karthikb on Friday November 12, 2021 @01:25AM (#29196795)
It really depends on the airline, but it's fairly common to put newer aircraft with WiFi on more business-heavy routes, and put the older aircraft on more tourist-heavy routes where passengers are more cost conscious and probably won't pay for the WiFi or other amenities either.
Re:How trains could replace planes in Europe by GekkePrutser on Friday November 12, 2021 @04:21AM (#29197553)
Yes it's because there's no pan-european ground network yet so airlines are limited to expensive and slow satellite internet.

However this is coming soon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Aviation_Network

Re:How trains could replace planes in Europe by baby on Thursday November 11, 2021 @09:47PM (#29195819)
I think it’s starting to become a thing, but even in the US the last time I tried it just wasn’t working.
Re:How trains could replace planes in Europe by dagw on Friday November 12, 2021 @04:14AM (#29197516)
Is WiFi uncommon in Europe?

It's pretty rare, and when they do have it it is incredibly expensive, limited or both. On trains they basically always have it and it's free.

(with the caveat that it's been 2+ years since I was on a plane so I don't know how things have changed)

Re:How trains could replace planes in Europe by dTal on Saturday November 13, 2021 @10:02AM (#29210199)
Also worth noting that cell phones work normally on trains, what with them being on the ground, so you're not even at the mercy of the operator - you can just use your normal service.