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Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by sokoloff on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:07PM (#29190298)
It seems like, even if intentional, that it’s a sensible optimization. Among multi-car collisions, drivers’ side small offset collisions I’d expect to be vastly more common than passenger side small offset collisions.

In both single and multi car collisions, we will assume there’s a driver in all cars, but less than 100% chance for there to be a front-seat passenger in all cars.

Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by flyingfences on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:13PM (#29190377)
The question then arises whether they apply those optimizations to the same or to opposite sides in left-hand-drive vs. right-hand-drive markets.
Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by mywittyname on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:55PM (#29190855)
It's very likely. The difference between RHD and LHD models are much more extreme than is obvious. Vehicles have to be designed with chirality in mind, but not everything can just be moved to the other side of the vehicle, for example, a FWD car usually has the engine orientation fixed regardless of market, which is going to cause asymmetries.
Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by dotancohen on Thursday November 11, 2021 @01:29PM (#29191258)
You'll sometimes see a real tight engine compartment, with a huge gap where the master cylinder and brake booster will go in the RHD models. I think that the 1990's Camaros and Firebirds had this peculiarity.

It also meant that changing the right hand side sparkplugs was a breeze, but the left side required either dropping the engine or drilling the firewall.

Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by mywittyname on Thursday November 11, 2021 @02:10PM (#29191807)
Despite having owned two f-bodies, I never knew they were available in RHD.
Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by dotancohen on Saturday November 13, 2021 @09:09AM (#29209815)
Here's one: http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=37485&country=au

I'm not from the UK or any other RHD market, but if you are then are some cars, such as the Camaro/Firebird, sold LHD there? Or just not sold at all?

Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by dotancohen on Sunday November 14, 2021 @02:09AM (#29215849)
Looking again at the RHD Camaro I linked, it might be a conversion. The parking brake remains on the right side of the shift lever, and the wipers wipe in the LHD direction.

I'd love to know if there really are factory RHD Camaros, and if not then why did they have that unusually lopsided engine bay.

Re:How do cars fare in crash tests they're not specifically ... by d1sxeyes on Friday November 12, 2021 @04:49AM (#29197729)
Additionally, it's probably a reasonable assumption that even in cases where a front-seat passenger is present, the majority of impacts would be driver side.

I thought about the following cases where you might encounter this type of impact:

1. Driver is not controlling the car properly (asleep, drunk, etc.) and leaves the carriageway and impacts some road furniture, etc. - in this case, single driver likely has around 50/50 chance of going left vs right, but an accompanied driver is less likely to have this type of incident (passenger can shout to wake the driver, reach for the wheel, etc.). As a result, total fatalities from this collision mode would probably be significantly higher for drivers than passengers.

2. Driver understeers around a corner. In this case, understeer would be more likely on a smaller radius corner than a larger one. As the drivers' side is closest to the other carriageway, this means that the driver would already need to be on the widest part of the curve in order for the impact to be on the passenger's side. This likely reduces the frequency of oversteering from the outside of a turn - although as a secondary consideration, it probably implies higher speed, and so potentially higher fatality rate. Therefore, as more oversteer-related incidents would happen from the inside of the curve, the driver is more likely to be impacted.

3. Impact occurs during overtaking. In this case, we assume the driver is in the opposite carriageway. Oncoming traffic is likely to evade, and during an overtaking manoeuvre, it is likely that evasion into the driver's original lane is not possible due to other traffic. As a result, both our driver and oncoming traffic are likely to try to evade off the carriageway (onto the hard shoulder, grass verge, etc.) Considering that this is a small overlap test, it would imply that evasion has been at least partially successful, implying reduced speeds, etc. It's probably not particularly more likely that either driver or passenger is subject to this impact.

I couldn't think of any other illustrative cases, but it does seem that the even considering that passengers are not present in all cases, the individual risk to a passenger is lower than the risk to a driver when there is one present.