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Re:Doing Fraud on Securities Fraud by kybernetikos on Thursday November 11, 2021 @06:54AM (#29186967)
> since private property is also only legally a thing

This is a particularly interesting thing to point out in this context - property ownership is a meme itself.

> Things have value because we need them (inelastic part of the supply-demand curve), things have a price because we want them (elastic part of the supply-demand curve).

Incidentally while it's an interesting distinction, I don't agree with your comment on need/value want/price. I value lots of things I don't need. Humans are creatures that value things, things that are valued are valuable.

> Only if you don't understand probabilities and risk management.

Yeah, you're probably right on that. I could maybe try to claim that probabilities and risk management are memes themselves...

Re:Doing Fraud on Securities Fraud by igorkraw on Thursday November 11, 2021 @05:45PM (#29194231)
Like I said to the child comment, I think we are aligned on value, I included subjective and emotional needs on this. I do think this distinction makes sense because the more something has value for you, the less elastic your personal price-demand curve becomes. And certain things we all have a demand-floor. And that's kind of the difference between price and value right? Value is the thing that's stays valuable and desirable even if it's not priced and can't be exchanged
Re:Doing Fraud on Securities Fraud by shard on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:44PM (#29190754)
> Incidentally while it's an interesting distinction, I don't agree with your comment on need/value want/price. I value lots of things I don't need. Humans are creatures that value things, things that are valued are valuable.

It sounds like there is a disagreement on definition of "need". Perhaps yours is closer to "will physically die if not present", and the parent poster's is "somewhere on Maslow's hierarchy of needs".

Re:Doing Fraud on Securities Fraud by igorkraw on Thursday November 11, 2021 @05:40PM (#29194190)
Yes, I was including emotional, subjective needs in there. I think GP and I mean the same thing